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Re: Tallest Under Construction Buildings in the World

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Post by mabbo »

WilliamSt wrote: post #27
ajmurmann wrote: post #12

Do we know what lead to skyscrapers being built? Intuitively I'd think economic prosperity and density. However, Europe has a pretty good economy, is more densely populated than many other regions, yet hardly any skyscrapers to speak of. Do they maybe get built when you need lots of space in the same location quickly? Like when you have a extreme high growth company. Given most skyscrapers are used by several complet…

I think it's a cultural thing. A lot of people in europe think skyscrapers destroy the skylines of cities. They really dislike any changes though. For example, in Stockholm, there was a fire recently in a rather ugly building (where they educate architects!!). Rather than tearing it down and building something better looking than that sh*thole eye sore of a building they are just repairing it. This is the building I'…

The Azrieli School of Architecture building at Carleton University in Ottawa is a bizarre building that a lot of Architect students have their courses in. The legend on campus is that the building was designed purposely to be filled with architectural flaws so that students would learn from them. I have no idea if it's true, but it certainly would explain a lot.

Perhaps your architect's school has a similar idea in mind. Because seriously, that is a dull looking building.

Re: Tallest Under Construction Buildings in the World

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Post by maxerickson »

WilliamSt wrote: post #27
ajmurmann wrote: post #12

Do we know what lead to skyscrapers being built? Intuitively I'd think economic prosperity and density. However, Europe has a pretty good economy, is more densely populated than many other regions, yet hardly any skyscrapers to speak of. Do they maybe get built when you need lots of space in the same location quickly? Like when you have a extreme high growth company. Given most skyscrapers are used by several complet…

I think it's a cultural thing. A lot of people in europe think skyscrapers destroy the skylines of cities. They really dislike any changes though. For example, in Stockholm, there was a fire recently in a rather ugly building (where they educate architects!!). Rather than tearing it down and building something better looking than that sh*thole eye sore of a building they are just repairing it. This is the building I'…

I can see how it could be good to make future architects suffer bad architecture along their way.

Re: Tallest Under Construction Buildings in the World

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Post by mabbo »

yeukhon wrote: post #39

To be honest, I don’t really understand if there are any practical motivations to race for the tallest building in record.

I suppose it's sort of like the practical motivations of formula 1 racing. The things learned while trying to push the limits to the extreme can lead to practical uses for everyday versions.

For example, if these tall towers figure out a smarter way to move people vertically (non-cabled elevators?), that can be applied to the many 50-story buildings being built for more normal purposes.

Re: Tallest Under Construction Buildings in the World

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Post by yeukhon »

mabbo wrote: post #43
yeukhon wrote: post #39

To be honest, I don’t really understand if there are any practical motivations to race for the tallest building in record.

I suppose it's sort of like the practical motivations of formula 1 racing. The things learned while trying to push the limits to the extreme can lead to practical uses for everyday versions. For example, if these tall towers figure out a smarter way to move people vertically (non-cabled elevators?), that can be applied to the many 50-story buildings being built for more normal purposes.

Yeah, but if you build, let say, 50 more stories higher each time, while technically challenging for engineers and architects, the new knowledge we gain from each project seems less relevant and useful. I understand that geography, soil and weather system influences each design...

Re: Tallest Under Construction Buildings in the World

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Post by frik »

igravious wrote: post #19
frik wrote: post #2

That's the related list of completed tallest building: http://www.skyscrapercenter.com/buildings?list=tallest100-co... At the moment Shanghai (China) is the cities with most sky scrappers in the world.

@frik – many of your comments (including this one) are dead. Can't tell from your comment history why.

Thanks for letting me know!

It's hard to reply, I can only post 2-3 comments per day, as I always get this site error message:

  "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks."
Apparently I rubbed the owner/maintainer the wrong way by asking about checking the site server logs to investigate an apparent voting ring thing going on - that was about two years ago. Then he apparently "rate-limited" my account, meaning I can only post two or three comments per day, the votings doesn't count and the comments are fall instantly to the bottom, and the karma stagnates. Some weeks ago, he shadow banned my account. There is little difference between an "rate-limited" account and an "shadow banned" account.

Would be nice to bury the hatchet

Re: Tallest Under Construction Buildings in the World

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Post by jedberg »

WilliamSt wrote: post #27
ajmurmann wrote: post #12

Do we know what lead to skyscrapers being built? Intuitively I'd think economic prosperity and density. However, Europe has a pretty good economy, is more densely populated than many other regions, yet hardly any skyscrapers to speak of. Do they maybe get built when you need lots of space in the same location quickly? Like when you have a extreme high growth company. Given most skyscrapers are used by several complet…

I think it's a cultural thing. A lot of people in europe think skyscrapers destroy the skylines of cities. They really dislike any changes though. For example, in Stockholm, there was a fire recently in a rather ugly building (where they educate architects!!). Rather than tearing it down and building something better looking than that sh*thole eye sore of a building they are just repairing it. This is the building I'…

Architecture schools always seem to be ugly for some reason. The one at Berkeley[0] is hideous. Legend has it that it was build to look "inside-out" so the students could have a better understanding of how buildings are built.

[0] https://ced.berkeley.edu/images/made/images/uploads/features...

Re: Tallest Under Construction Buildings in the World

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Post by Fricken »

jacobmoe wrote: post #9
dforrestwilson wrote: post #7

Usually a good contra-indicator for economic health.

How so? Are there historical examples?

I live in Edmonton, Alberta. Our skyline went virtually unchanged for 30 years until about 2013, when a sky scraper building frenzy took off, the culmination of a sustained oil boom. Over 40 towers were planned or under construction in 2014 when the price of oil bottomed out. A bunch of those projects were cancelled or put on hold, but enough of them went up.

So early 2014, if you stood in the right place you could spot 14 construction towers. Being familiar with the theory, I remember looking at all those cranes and thinking 'Oil is going to tank'. It did.

Re: Tallest Under Construction Buildings in the World

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Post by igravious »

frik wrote: post #45
igravious wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

@frik – many of your comments (including this one) are dead. Can't tell from your comment history why.

Thanks for letting me know! It's hard to reply, I can only post 2-3 comments per day, as I always get this site error message: "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." Apparently I rubbed the owner/maintainer the wrong way by asking about checking the site server logs to investigate an apparent voting ring thing going on - that was about two years ago. Then he apparently "rate-limited" my account, meaning…

> There is little difference between an "rate-limited" account and an "shadow banned" account.

I don't think this is true. I get the "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." if I post too many times in quick succession. If you are rate-limited the posts that you can post will show up as normal. However if you are shadow-banned your posts show up immediately as dead and people can't see them unless they have show-dead enabled. Even to be able to reply to you I have to first click on your post and then click 'vouch'. I guess if you kept approaching the site admin that's why you were shadow-banned, I don't see any point in approaching them unless something terrible is going on, there are too many accounts here and it's not a commercial venture. I don't know what you did but your comment history seems okay but all your comments are showing up dead unless someone clicks 'vouch'. Perhaps if you promised to leave the admins alone? I mean you have more karma than me! Good luck.

Re: Tallest Under Construction Buildings in the World

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Post by frik »

igravious wrote: post #49
frik wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for letting me know! It's hard to reply, I can only post 2-3 comments per day, as I always get this site error message: "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." Apparently I rubbed the owner/maintainer the wrong way by asking about checking the site server logs to investigate an apparent voting ring thing going on - that was about two years ago. Then he apparently "rate-limited" my account, meaning…

> There is little difference between an "rate-limited" account and an "shadow banned" account. I don't think this is true. I get the "You're posting too fast. Please slow down. Thanks." if I post too many times in quick succession. If you are rate-limited the posts that you can post will show up as normal. However if you are shadow-banned your posts show up immediately as dead and people can't see them unless they ha…

It's unfortunately true. I know what you mean, but this same warning message shows up in both occasions. With "rate-limited" account it shows up after two posts and then one cannot post for about 6 hours. The message doesn't make sense, it's there like the shadow ban to annoy one and get you to move away from the site eventually. I promise I won't interact again with the admin.
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