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Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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Re: Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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I haven't found any Android apps worth buying. I look through the paid apps section now and again and it seems to be very utility-centirc. I'm not going to pay for a backup tool, file manager, ROM manager, over-clocking utility, task manager, etc. Of course you don't have to. The free versions of these apps are good enough. Then you have an assortment of weather apps, alarm clocks, etc. Again stuff that just doesn't…

My wife has the verizon droid and she has not bought a single app while I have at least 30$ worth of apps on my iPhone. It is not just the reasons you have listed. Go into the reviews and you will find that every app in the store does not work on at least one model of phone. Additionally, when my wife had a problem with her phone the Verizon rep told her to uninstall all her applications and put them on one at a time, with a day or two between installs to try and find which one created the problems she was facing. I tried to help out by going online and found forums discussing which versions of which apps on this or that handset killed performance, battery life, stability etc. In short my wife has basically refused to install anything other than the stock applications and a few google apps. Google has, in my opinion, failed to create an ecosystem where people feel safe purchasing software.

Re: Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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I'm an android guy, but I bought an iPad recently, and I think the author's missing a huge chunk of the issue here: Design & Culture. There is a big, big difference between how Google & Apple handle paid-for purchases - on Android, you get a confirmation screen, you have to verify the purchase, and you get 24hrs to return it. On iOS, you press a button and the app starts downloading. It's almost frighteningly fast -…

You normally have to put in your password as well, unless you have chosen to skip that step in itunes, which seems a pretty silly thing to do.

Re: Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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It is just as big a problem or perhaps even bigger that hardly any countries are allowed to sell apps. It means there are millions of developers with no option to put a price on their apps. So what do they do? they make free apps that compete with the paid apps. The free apps aren't always as good as the paid ones but they still bite into their revenue because for some reason people will irrationally put up with a lo…

>So what do they do? they make free apps that compete with the paid apps.

No, they stay with Apple, where they can actually make money.

Re: Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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I haven't found any Android apps worth buying. I look through the paid apps section now and again and it seems to be very utility-centirc. I'm not going to pay for a backup tool, file manager, ROM manager, over-clocking utility, task manager, etc. Of course you don't have to. The free versions of these apps are good enough. Then you have an assortment of weather apps, alarm clocks, etc. Again stuff that just doesn't…

What sort of apps would you consider buying? What are you looking to do with your phone that you can't do with a free app? I've bought apps but mostly just the "donation" versions of free apps that I use a lot.

Re: Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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post #22

I haven't found any Android apps worth buying. I look through the paid apps section now and again and it seems to be very utility-centirc. I'm not going to pay for a backup tool, file manager, ROM manager, over-clocking utility, task manager, etc. Of course you don't have to. The free versions of these apps are good enough. Then you have an assortment of weather apps, alarm clocks, etc. Again stuff that just doesn't…

What sort of apps would you consider buying? What are you looking to do with your phone that you can't do with a free app? I've bought apps but mostly just the "donation" versions of free apps that I use a lot.

How about a card game that doesn't blow? I've bought the Apple poker game, hearts, and some others. I paid 3 bucks for a hearts game on Android and it was terrible. It looked like some 1996 Windows shareware game. Tiger Woods golf is fun, and so is Angry Birds. Or how about a navigation app for when you're out of service? The Android app store is just about useless.

Re: Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The paid App Store or Android market will never be a revenue stream for Apple or Google. In fact it is probably designed to be break-even at best. They need interesting apps to push their respective platforms further - that's where the gold mine is for both companies (apple gets to sell more hardware and goog gets more searches)

Yep, the difference between them is that Apple had the luxury of waiting a year before tackling the app store (and experience with iTunes to draw from) whereas Google needed an app store on Day 1, albeit a store they could neglect.

The Apple App store sucks, too.

Re: Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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I haven't found any Android apps worth buying. I look through the paid apps section now and again and it seems to be very utility-centirc. I'm not going to pay for a backup tool, file manager, ROM manager, over-clocking utility, task manager, etc. Of course you don't have to. The free versions of these apps are good enough. Then you have an assortment of weather apps, alarm clocks, etc. Again stuff that just doesn't…

My wife has the verizon droid and she has not bought a single app while I have at least 30$ worth of apps on my iPhone. It is not just the reasons you have listed. Go into the reviews and you will find that every app in the store does not work on at least one model of phone. Additionally, when my wife had a problem with her phone the Verizon rep told her to uninstall all her applications and put them on one at a time…

Mine just tried to update to Froyo and it bricked her Droid. Verizon is sending a replacement in the mail and she will be receiving it within five days. Though they offered her to send it overnight for $20, yet it's not her fault.

Too bad there isn't a Motorola store you can take and get it fixed the same day like Apple has done for me 3 times with my iPhone.

Prior to her experience and now comparing it to my Apple experiences I thought Android was a pretty good platform. Yet, with it's lackluster customer service, Google selling it's soul to Verizon & these continued posts of it's lackluster app store - I'm not so sure anymore.

Re: Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hell - we might not be able to buy iphone/android games in Australia in a few weeks: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/media/apps-and-game...

Well, you wouldn't be able to find them anyway, thanks to the Great Barrier Firewall. :(

Fingers crossed we can avoid the firewall. (One of the 2 major parties (the conservative party called the Liberals) has stated that they will vote against it. The Greens have stated their opposition as well. Unless the Labor party (the supposed left-wing party) wins a majority in the Senate (unlikely) - the filter is dead.

Re: Why Android devs are losing money, and it’s not due to piracy

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Although you CAN buy apps on the New Zealand market place, as a developer in New Zealand, you CANNOT sell any apps! As a developer you need to be in Austria, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Netherlands, Spain, United Kingdom or United States to set up a merchant account. I had an email conversion with Tim Bray about this... He said: "I hear you. We're working on lots more countries. It's an amazing amount of work to d…

Here's the list of countries: http://market.android.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&an... I'm _amazed_ that Google hasn't fixed this. Apple didn't have the problem at all, and I don't understand why it is taking Google so long.

Gruber's cynical view on this: http://daringfireball.net/linked/2010/08/16/google-paid-apps
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