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Docker is Dead

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Re: Docker is Dead

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Post by dvanduzer »

DrNemski wrote: post #38
dvanduzer wrote: post #8

If Docker's future is an acquisition, who will it be? I have not thought deeply about this, but like the author, I have also heard scuttlebutt. From the "good for us" perspective, the community would not miss the company's leadership on Linux Container standardization nearly as much as the aggregation service that is DockerHub. But from the "good for the acquiring company" perspective, who would care? A GitHub or a R…

I'm not sure how you put GitHub in the mix to acquire Docker, they are not a very big company in terms of revenue (currently they talk about a $200m run rate, which is pitiful even compared to RedHat). But I agree Microsoft is the most likely buyer. They are probably just waiting for the bottom to fall out for Docker and they can snap it up for the right price.

An earlier draft of that comment had "not sure either company would bid very hard" phrased as "not sure either company has the financials to support" so I looked up RHT's market cap, saw it was in the 10s of billions, remembered GitHub is still privately held, and decided to stop the detailed research at that point.

Good catch, though. GitHub is a candidate because their core business model, like Most Linux Distributors, is built around aggregating and re-distributing open source software in a trustworthy fashion. (And support contracts around that.)

No acquisition is also a possibility. Neither Docker the tech nor Docker the company is too big to fail right now.

Re: Docker is Dead

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Post by DrNemski »

dvanduzer wrote: post #41
DrNemski wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure how you put GitHub in the mix to acquire Docker, they are not a very big company in terms of revenue (currently they talk about a $200m run rate, which is pitiful even compared to RedHat). But I agree Microsoft is the most likely buyer. They are probably just waiting for the bottom to fall out for Docker and they can snap it up for the right price.

An earlier draft of that comment had "not sure either company would bid very hard" phrased as "not sure either company has the financials to support" so I looked up RHT's market cap, saw it was in the 10s of billions, remembered GitHub is still privately held, and decided to stop the detailed research at that point. Good catch, though. GitHub is a candidate because their core business model, like Most Linux Distribut…

> No acquisition is also a possibility.

Oh my yes, the quiet release of CRI-O by RedHat and Google recently was a pivotal moment. You can run a container orchestration environment in production without anything from Docker the company. You still need it to build and maybe host images but the rest is pluggable.

Re: Docker is Dead

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Post by dvanduzer »

DrNemski wrote: post #42
dvanduzer wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

An earlier draft of that comment had "not sure either company would bid very hard" phrased as "not sure either company has the financials to support" so I looked up RHT's market cap, saw it was in the 10s of billions, remembered GitHub is still privately held, and decided to stop the detailed research at that point. Good catch, though. GitHub is a candidate because their core business model, like Most Linux Distribut…

> No acquisition is also a possibility. Oh my yes, the quiet release of CRI-O by RedHat and Google recently was a pivotal moment. You can run a container orchestration environment in production without anything from Docker the company. You still need it to build and maybe host images but the rest is pluggable.

Have you tried bazel.build by chance?

Re: Docker is Dead

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Post by dang »

frik wrote: post #31
mankash666 wrote: post #2

Dead? Really? TLDR - author disapproves of Docker's management & monetization strategy. However, offers no evidence for a "dying" docker. ClickBait.

Typical for HN, the article got hidden. It's well known YC alumni have some additional HN mod permissions and Docker is YC S10 (Summer 2010 batch of YCombinator).

This comment was killed because the commenter is banned for serial abuse of HN. I'm going to unkill it because I don't like to leave smears unreplied to.

Moderators didn't touch this article or affect it in any way; users flagged it.

YC alumni do not have HN mod permissions or any ability to demote articles beyond the flagging ability all users get (once their karma passes 30).

Re: Docker is Dead

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Post by bunderbunder »

dcosson wrote: post #36
Axsuul wrote: post #15

Despite the rise of Kubernetes, it's not for every use case and far from it. Docker Swarm and Docker Compose are extremely valuable with small deployments and development. It's by the far the easiest and simplest way to get a cluster up and running.

Why would you want to get a small cluster up and running as a small deployment? I’d rather use google or amazon hosted container services. Agree docket-compose is useful, but that’s an open source standalone program, not something you pay docker for.

The use case I was initially attracted to was making it slightly easier to develop & test components in a service-oriented application. Docker Compose makes it possible to stand up a handful of services without too much fuss.
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