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Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

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Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

#41
post #8

I'm reminded of an excellent book detailing the US's own interference with Russian cables 30 years back: https://www.amazon.com/Blind-Mans-Bluff-Submarine-Espionage/...

I seem to recall that the first action of the British in WW I was to cut the German communications cable in the Atlantic.

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

#42
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're just backing up his point about Russia.

Man: Is that my wallet in your hand? Thief: No sir. You're paranoid. Man: That is my wallet. I can see my ID! Thief: See, I told you that you were paranoid.

Man: Is that my wallet in your hand?

Sane Man: No sir. That's my mobile phone.

Man: That is my wallet. I can see my ID!

Sane Man: You need help.

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

#43
post #37

I believe that until recently neither Azure or AWS had a datacenter in the UK. Cutting undersea cables between the UK and the US / Europe / Ireland could have some serious consequences in the UK, at the very least on the economy, possibly on its infrastructure (payment systems, communications, etc). But aren't terrestrial cables more vulnerables than undersea cables? Cutting undersea cables require sophisticated tech…

Terrestial cables are easy to repair, in terms of hours. For undersea cables, this could take weeks or months, depending on location and wheather conditions.

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

#44
post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My favorite part was that the Russians detected our undersea tap, found it, and put it in a Moscow museum complete with the stamp "Property of United States Government."

That's indicative of the stark cultural contrast between USA and Russia, indeed: https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/01/23/vladimir-putin-robert-kraf...

In some ways, the story of someone getting ripped off like that leaves the victim with a better story for themselves than simply being a guy who has four super bowl rings even though he doesn't actually play football.

Which is not to applaud theft, but rather to highlight the unsympathetic qualities of the victim.

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

#46
post #2

If only the Internet was resistant to losing connections. I guess all we can do is give these guys more money to defend us from the big bad bear with a military that is a tiny fraction of ours.

or what they're doing is placing remotely detonated charges for later simultaneous usage should the need arise. (I'm not saying I think this is what has happened, but it's just a thought)

if you lose significant capacity (or all capacity) simultaneously you can't fall back to the "internet is resilient" routine. you're straight up screwed.

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

#48

Anyone know the specifics of how you actually intercept data on a fibre optic cable?

Does it really matter? Most of the important data is already encrypted (and even the unimportant stuff like youtube video streams are served over HTTPS, not even sure why).

The real problem is them cutting or blowing up these cables.

Re: Russian submarine activity increases around Atlantic internet cables: report

#50

Given that it's 2017 and a huge fraction of the traffic is HTTPS anyway, is there any practical benefit to this?

Newsflash: HTTPS is not bulletproof. Subtle weaknesses are uncovered regularly. The latest: https://thehackernews.com/2017/12/bleichenbacher-robot-rsa.h...
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