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Apple’s New iPhones Get a Lukewarm Reception from Buyers

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

jaxondu wrote: post #3

If you visit Singapore telcos (SingTel, StarHub, M1) physical store, you will see a signboard listing availability of iPhone models. For the past many years, the stocks for new models are generally "Not Available" during Christmas shopping season. So to buy iPhone at telco store during this period, you have to queue up before the store open in order to get the daily limited units released for sale. I just visited tel…

The X has been doing super well in China, which is pretty expected as a status symbol that can be distinguished from the 6, 7, and 8.

http://bgr.com/2017/12/18/iphone-x-sales-china-256-gb-quarte...

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Post by on_and_off »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #18

The problem with the iPhone X is its only selling point is the huge screen. It looks cool, perhaps. But it doesn't really bring anything new or useful to the design, and requires so many compromises: the (less secure and less convenient) Face ID instead of Touch ID, no home button, all the basic OS functionality having completely different gestures or button sequences than before, the notch at the top covering the sc…

I am curious to see how this gesture based UI will be received.

Apple is probably the only company that can push such an UI (with people willing to take the time to learn it) but I have still rarely seen it work for normal users : if a button is not visible; it won't be used.

If I were to buy an iPhone X; I would just wait a generation or 2 for this notch to hopefully disappear (also hopefully to have a more resistant frame even though I doubt it will happen , form over function).

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Post by twoodfin »

abakker wrote: post #22

Sample size of 1: the iPhone X is a huge step up from the 6+. FaceID is very nice to use, and the lack of a physical home button improves the ergonomics considerably.

Agree. The biggest surprise to me was how simultaneously novel and polished the gesture/flow interface was from the very beginning.

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Post by tjohns »

beamatronic wrote: post #21

I'll buy a $3000 MacBook Pro if you bring back USB ports, an SD slot, an HDMI port, a user replaceable battery. And the escape key. But no, why don't you just leave this money on the table instead and I'll make do with the 2013 model. You go on ahead, Apple, wondering how to ignite more revenue growth.

I don't quite get the USB port issue... the MBP has 4 of them.

They're type-C, but that's the direction all consumer electronics are headed in. All of my daily gear is USB-C now. It's a much more capable port in general.

And for legacy USB gear, you can either just swap out for a C-to-B cable, or get a small C-to-A dongle if the cable isn't removable.

I'd much rather have the extra type-C ports, myself.

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abakker wrote: post #26
TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #18

The problem with the iPhone X is its only selling point is the huge screen. It looks cool, perhaps. But it doesn't really bring anything new or useful to the design, and requires so many compromises: the (less secure and less convenient) Face ID instead of Touch ID, no home button, all the basic OS functionality having completely different gestures or button sequences than before, the notch at the top covering the sc…

As someone who bought one for ARkit stuff, I was ready to have all the complaints you mention, but honestly they haven't turned out to be true for me. FaceID is more reliable than touch ID, and only 2 gestures really change. The status bar size is silly, but, the notch itself barely registers after the first few days of use.

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Post by rconti »

jrs95 wrote: post #15
rdlecler1 wrote: post #8

The smaller screen width was a deal breaker for be. I'll wait for the next iteration which purportedly will have a larger screen.

I hadn't really thought about it but I suppose the current width is why I'm so comfortable typing on it coming from an iPhone 7. If I'd had the Plus, it might have felt like kind of a downgrade.

Hated every minute of my 7+, happy to have gone back to a sane size with the X. I could see how someone with insanely huge hands, or someone who needs a phone to "make a statement" wouldn't want something smaller, but for most of us, it's great.

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Post by _Codemonkeyism »

CamelCaseName wrote: post #9
JustSomeNobody wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wouldn't that be a clear sign they aren't selling as well as expected?

It could also signal a shift in strategy by Apple to overproduce, or better models that more accurately estimate demand.

It COULD also be a sign for the end of times.

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Post by Keyframe »

What's the average upgrade cycle of iphone users? I feel like there's diminishing features in every new iteration of phones in general now. I have a few years old Xperia Z2 and have been looking at new phones in stores when I'm near one. Cool screen, this and that, but in general absolutely nothing that I would need to buy vs what I have, and I'm even inclined towards parting ways with cash for it - just can't find any valid reason.

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Post by junkscience2017 »

Apple's getting lazy. Clearly drowning in money doesn't do much to motivate employees.

Given Apple's deep pockets and platform ownership, how is it that Spotify is still alive? How is it the Apple Maps is still lagging Google Maps so profoundly? Or that Apple can't muster any response to Netflix at all? Let's not even get into the farcical self-driving car project they aborted

Apple has now had years and unlimited funds to compete in these service markets, but still is behind. Tim Cook needs to do some exec shuffling, the company is coasting. Shareholders and analysts won't ask tough questions, everyone is making money and they don't want to jeopardize access

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