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DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by thriftwy »

int_19h wrote: post #29
product50 wrote: post #10

This is a really cruel move. It honestly only affects a small population of spouses from Indian and Chinese immigrants who have to wait a long time for their green card application to go through (due to per country quotas). The reason why spouses of H1-B immigrants can't find jobs on their own, even when qualified, is because of H1 quotas which fill on the first day of application - and, if they aren't lucky to get i…

The merit-based proposal that I've seen last time around had very high bars; much higher than Canada, say. I would dare say that most H1Bs would be worse off under it, in that they wouldn't be able to secure the visa at all.

So you are suggesting some of H1B slots will stay empty?

If they're not, what's the problem? The best performers still got their visas, and USA got the top talent.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by somberi »

https://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21716630-not-go...

For engineers like me who went to the US in the mid-90s on H1B, spouses were not allowed to work. The US government changed it, to be in sync with other countries that allowed American employees' spouses work in the host countries.

This new move will have an effect on the spouses of American workers abroad, since host countries will retaliate as a mark of protest.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by falsedan »

darkdreams wrote: post #31

The E-3 visa (meant for Australians) doesn't have any work restrictions on spouses. Why isn't the administration targeting those visas/ead if this is indeed about "Hire American and buy American" ?

The quota for E-3s is 10,000/year, it gets about 30% subscribed (with new applications, renewals aren't capped), and it's providing the free and open movement of labour that the AU-US FTA requires.

but also: white Australians don't trigger racist reactions & clamping down on all Australian E-3 immigrants would not be as effect of a dogwhistle.

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Post by pjc50 »

panic wrote: post #14

The DHS as an organization should be disbanded. It barely made sense when it was founded after 9/11, but now it's actively working against America's interests. Our borders and immigration rules are so unpleasant, people would rather work in other countries than deal with them even a few times a year.

That's definitely working as designed. There's enough hostility to "immigrants" from voters that the system is deliberately made as hostile as possible. Same for the UK system.

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by [deleted] »

briandear wrote: post #40
product50 wrote: post #10

This is a really cruel move. It honestly only affects a small population of spouses from Indian and Chinese immigrants who have to wait a long time for their green card application to go through (due to per country quotas). The reason why spouses of H1-B immigrants can't find jobs on their own, even when qualified, is because of H1 quotas which fill on the first day of application - and, if they aren't lucky to get i…

Let’s get something straight: H1B is not an immigrant visa. It’s a temporary work visa. So the idea of “H1B Immigrants” is wrong and represents an abuse of the program. Someone who intends to immigrate ought not be using the H1B. Really there should be no path to a green card for H1Bs.. that is against the purpose of that visa. Get an EB3 if you intend to immigrate.

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Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by jopsen »

cylinder wrote: post #17
nopinsight wrote: post #9

If enacted, more R&D tech centers might pop up in other countries, esp Canada. The demand for high-level global tech talent is strong enough that most of them would not put up with much and companies will be forced to adapt.

High level global talent does not make up the bulk of H1B.

But H1B might make up a significant bulk of the high level talent...

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by loeber »

briandear wrote: post #40
product50 wrote: post #10

This is a really cruel move. It honestly only affects a small population of spouses from Indian and Chinese immigrants who have to wait a long time for their green card application to go through (due to per country quotas). The reason why spouses of H1-B immigrants can't find jobs on their own, even when qualified, is because of H1 quotas which fill on the first day of application - and, if they aren't lucky to get i…

Let’s get something straight: H1B is not an immigrant visa. It’s a temporary work visa. So the idea of “H1B Immigrants” is wrong and represents an abuse of the program. Someone who intends to immigrate ought not be using the H1B. Really there should be no path to a green card for H1Bs.. that is against the purpose of that visa. Get an EB3 if you intend to immigrate.

You say "let's get something straight" but follow up with blatant misinformation.

Directly from wikipedia:

"Even though the H-1B visa is a non-immigrant visa, it is one of the few temporary visa categories recognized as dual intent, meaning an H-1B holder can have legal immigration intent (apply for and obtain the green card) while still a holder of the H-1B visa. Effectively, the requirement to maintain a foreign address for this non-immigrant classification was removed in the Immigration Act of 1990."

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by noncoml »

acoster wrote: post #33
jmnicolas wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you can speak German that is ...

There are French and Italian speaking regions too (well, there's Romansh, but that's tiny). But in all seriousness, in the main cities you can get by speaking English.

Get by as in find a job without speaking a word of French or German?

Re: DHS proposes to repeal Work Authorization to Spouses(H4) of H1B visa holders

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Post by impish19 »

briandear wrote: post #40
product50 wrote: post #10

This is a really cruel move. It honestly only affects a small population of spouses from Indian and Chinese immigrants who have to wait a long time for their green card application to go through (due to per country quotas). The reason why spouses of H1-B immigrants can't find jobs on their own, even when qualified, is because of H1 quotas which fill on the first day of application - and, if they aren't lucky to get i…

Let’s get something straight: H1B is not an immigrant visa. It’s a temporary work visa. So the idea of “H1B Immigrants” is wrong and represents an abuse of the program. Someone who intends to immigrate ought not be using the H1B. Really there should be no path to a green card for H1Bs.. that is against the purpose of that visa. Get an EB3 if you intend to immigrate.

It's extremely irresponsible of you to suggest that H1B holders are abusing the program by intending to immigrate because...

a) As pointed out by the comment earlier, H1B holders can have dual intent: https://www.uscis.gov/sites/default/files/USCIS/About%20Us/E...

b) Structuring of EB2/3 queues according to the birthplace of the applicant itself is more abusive than most things to do with immigration to the US.

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