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Re: Computer says no

#41

" . . . isn’t Vernon Hill, one of the bank’s founders, tempted to build an IT system of his own? I hate programmers, replies this dyed-in-the-wool entrepreneur. They only cause trouble." Spoken like someone who's been there on a few projects.

Here's the problem: to non-programmers programming is magic. How does a non-programmer hire a programmer? How do they manage a programming project?

The answer tends to be that they don't, they get lucky or they get unlucky. They don't have any protections from getting taken to the cleaners. From spending $10 million on a VBA + Access abomination that's far more trouble than it's worth. But they may be so unsophisticated when it comes to software that they don't know they've been taken for a ride until years later.

Compare that to, say, construction of a new bank building. A bank president knows that if they spend $X million they'll get a new building, with high probability. There may be some problems along the way but they for sure won't end up spending $X million on nothing, or on a cardboard box with a "BANK" sign written in crayon on the side. It's understandable that they might be a bit leery of dipping their feet in the IT waters.

Re: Computer says no

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post #25

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How many of us have written software that will be used 30 years from now? We may not always know that.

god i hope some of the crap i wrote when I was just starting dies in a pit of flames. To see it live for 30 years would be a nightmare spanning generations.

You were one of the Windows ME developers?

Re: Computer says no

#43

" . . . isn’t Vernon Hill, one of the bank’s founders, tempted to build an IT system of his own? I hate programmers, replies this dyed-in-the-wool entrepreneur. They only cause trouble." Spoken like someone who's been there on a few projects.

Here's the problem: to non-programmers programming is magic. How does a non-programmer hire a programmer? How do they manage a programming project? The answer tends to be that they don't, they get lucky or they get unlucky. They don't have any protections from getting taken to the cleaners. From spending $10 million on a VBA + Access abomination that's far more trouble than it's worth. But they may be so unsophistica…

I agree with all you said, but why hate programmers? That just seems a bit personally offending. Why not instead hate new software projects?

Re: Computer says no

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's the problem: to non-programmers programming is magic. How does a non-programmer hire a programmer? How do they manage a programming project? The answer tends to be that they don't, they get lucky or they get unlucky. They don't have any protections from getting taken to the cleaners. From spending $10 million on a VBA + Access abomination that's far more trouble than it's worth. But they may be so unsophistica…

I agree with all you said, but why hate programmers? That just seems a bit personally offending. Why not instead hate new software projects?

It's hate born of fear. Why hate big cities? If you keep getting mugged in big cities you'll likely fear and hate big cities, even if there's much else that's good about big cities (and even if there are many ways to protect yourself from being mugged).

Re: Computer says no

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post #17

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To whom? Accidenture?

That's got to be the funniest thing I read all day, thank you Gaius. We're often on opposite sites of various fences but with this one liner you've definitely made my day so thank you very much for that. :)

Private Eye also refer to outsourcing firm Capita as "Crapita", which is less funny but still makes me chuckle each time I see it
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