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Why We Blame Millennials for Everything

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Re: Why We Blame Millennials for Everything

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

Retric wrote: post #39
TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's rational to blame them for a huge range of issues No, it's not. It's making broad generalizations on a huge group of people. It's like blaming all white people for discrimination or all black people for crime. It's wrong and discriminatory, and makes the assumption that everyone in that group is equally bad. Instead of focusing on a certain age group, focus on the economic forces that gave boomers more opportu…

Economics are not separated from politics. The poor diet of most Americans is a direct result of various subsidies given to the farming lobby. Individual choices allow an individual to be fat, but at a national level it takes vast tracts of land. The growth of Chinese manufacturing is in large part a result of trade policies and our vast growing national debt's impact on currency's. Want long term growth? End deficit…

Right. I'm not arguing this. What I'm arguing is that blaming all Boomers for these issues is silly. Not all Boomers are in control of the government. Not all Boomers pushed for farming subsidies or pushed manufacturing to China. Not all boomers were white or lived a solidly middle-class life.

Re: Why We Blame Millennials for Everything

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Post by heartbreak »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #36
Retric wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Considering Boomers have actual power right now and plenty of time for their influence to spread; it's rational to blame them for a huge range of issues.

> it's rational to blame them for a huge range of issues No, it's not. It's making broad generalizations on a huge group of people. It's like blaming all white people for discrimination or all black people for crime. It's wrong and discriminatory, and makes the assumption that everyone in that group is equally bad. Instead of focusing on a certain age group, focus on the economic forces that gave boomers more opportu…

There is exactly one "millennial" in Congress, and you've probably never heard of her. I think it's fair to say "millennials" aren't voting on legislation, at least.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elise_Stefanik

Re: Why We Blame Millennials for Everything

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

heartbreak wrote: post #42
TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it's rational to blame them for a huge range of issues No, it's not. It's making broad generalizations on a huge group of people. It's like blaming all white people for discrimination or all black people for crime. It's wrong and discriminatory, and makes the assumption that everyone in that group is equally bad. Instead of focusing on a certain age group, focus on the economic forces that gave boomers more opportu…

There is exactly one "millennial" in Congress, and you've probably never heard of her. I think it's fair to say "millennials" aren't voting on legislation, at least. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elise_Stefanik

> There is exactly one "millennial" in Congress... I think it's fair to say "millennials" aren't voting on legislation, at least.

No, this makes the assumption that all millennials would only vote for a millennial. That doesn't make sense. Millennials typically don't have as much political experience. Why would we vote for them?

Millennials don't need to be voted into office for their voice to be heard. That's the point of a republic, to elect representatives that reflect your _viewpoints_, not age.

Re: Why We Blame Millennials for Everything

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Post by Buldak »

jbondeson wrote: post #19
gnu8 wrote: post #10

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.

I'll take "Apocryphal Socrates Quotes" for $500 Alex

In a sense all Socrates quotes are apocryphal.

Re: Why We Blame Millennials for Everything

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Post by Retric »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #41
Retric wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Economics are not separated from politics. The poor diet of most Americans is a direct result of various subsidies given to the farming lobby. Individual choices allow an individual to be fat, but at a national level it takes vast tracts of land. The growth of Chinese manufacturing is in large part a result of trade policies and our vast growing national debt's impact on currency's. Want long term growth? End deficit…

Right. I'm not arguing this. What I'm arguing is that blaming all Boomers for these issues is silly. Not all Boomers are in control of the government. Not all Boomers pushed for farming subsidies or pushed manufacturing to China. Not all boomers were white or lived a solidly middle-class life.

A specific subgroup of Boomers are still Boomers. So, yea it might not be every single Boomers fault equally, but that does not change anything it's still the Boomers fault.

Re: Why We Blame Millennials for Everything

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Post by lucozade »

crdoconnor wrote: post #32
lucozade wrote: post #13

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It could be a conspiracy. Or it could be too many column inches to fill and not enough time to fill them with something insightful. Yeah, probably conspiracy.

I'd call it a group of individuals acting out of rational self interest. The notion that there's an agenda behind any media beyond selling eyeballs is, of course, a harebrained conspiracy theory.

Of course they have an agenda.

If you were to suggest that there is an agenda amongst the moneyed classes to keep corporate tax take low and restrictive regulation low then I would most heartily agree. There is overwhelming evidence that that is the case.

That there is a high level conspiracy to pit parent against child so everyone's too busy infighting? Extraordinary claims etc.

Re: Why We Blame Millennials for Everything

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Post by TheAdamAndChe »

Retric wrote: post #47
TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right. I'm not arguing this. What I'm arguing is that blaming all Boomers for these issues is silly. Not all Boomers are in control of the government. Not all Boomers pushed for farming subsidies or pushed manufacturing to China. Not all boomers were white or lived a solidly middle-class life.

A specific subgroup of Boomers are still Boomers. So, yea it might not be every single Boomers fault equally, but that does not change anything it's still the Boomers fault.

That argument can be extended to black people. Blacks statistically commit more crime than whites in America. It's still bad to say that black people are violent, because it's a broad, presumptuous generalization that ignores the forces causing that trend. Along the same vein, it's bad to assume that an entire age group is bad just because some currently run the country.

Re: Why We Blame Millennials for Everything

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Post by golemotron »

golemotron wrote: post #35
djsumdog wrote: post #2

Adam (from Adam Ruins Everything) does a really good talk at a marketing conference on why Millennials don't exist. Generational titles are never used to bring people up, but always tear a group of people down. Time magazine covers about Baby Boomers from decades ago are almost identical to those calling Millennials entitled today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-HFwok9SlQQ

There is nothing more Millennial than denying your generational cohort. I'm serious. The Gen-Xers and Boomers didn't do it.

This is funny. No one is posting any evidence that they did.
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