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Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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These anti Facebook and anti social media articles are so ubiquitous on hn now, that is starting to feel like a campaign. All too sudden, there is too many of them.

i think it is just that we are witnessing how the national media moves into a story and then after the audience grows tired of it, they move on. we are particularly aware of this happening, because the "national discussion" has moved into talking about tech right now. in time, the conversation will shift onto something else.

Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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These articles ignore people’s real alternatives. I’m in my 30s and have a small child. While I love to fly into Chicago or New York for a night of drinking with my still-single friends, that’s not really something I get to do more than once every couple of months. Seeing my wife’s extended family (3,000 miles away in the west coast) is a once every year thing, and seeing my extended family (7,000 miles away in Asia) is maybe a once a decade thing. But Facebook lets me see the woodworking project my Chicago friend is working on, the delicious things my father in law is making for the holidays, and at least know what my cousins’ kids look like these days. Far from being junk food, Facebook lets me maintain the most basic and important human relationships.

What did people in my situation do before Facebook? My parents, like most baby boomers I suspect, weren’t going out in the evenings to see friends in person. They’d sit down in front of the TV after work. Their social lives were narrow, focused heavily on home life and the kids. That’s what Facebook is replacing, and it’s a huge improvement.

Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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I agree that FB can be a big time sink. Every time I consider removing FB from my phone, I realize how much I learn about marketing on FB from the ads I see and the groups to which I belong.

If your job involves online marketing, being on Facebook is almost like research for one's job. And without maintaining a connection to this world, it's easy to lose touch with what other marketers are doing and rely on blog articles -- which are, oftentimes, out of date and common knowledge by the time one comes across them organically.

Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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I confess, most of what I consume via the internet is of little use to me. Sure, some of it might be interesting; some of it my present itself as relevant; but most of it (the truth is) life would go on without it. Don't take this the wrong way, but push come to shove, HN falls into this low truly impactful life nutrition as well. This is not a critique. It's just that despite my semi-best attempts the signal to noic…

Don’t be so apologetic, HN shouldn’t care if you think it’s trash.

Please don't put words in my mouth. It said nothing of the sort.

The message is this: What so often (read: too often) masquerades as meaningful and of substance - in the grand scheme of things - really isn't. It creates a self-serving blind-spot. And thus reactions such as yours.

Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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post #16

Interesting article, and I'm usually a fan of Nautilus pieces, but isn't this a bit obvious? Almost like 2017 is getting to be the year it's fashionable to poo poo social media (and Facebook in particular). Haven't used the site since about 2010 'cause the rank smell of the Skinner box made my nose curl from afar. I'm baffled that psych studies have to be referenced for people to see the obvious; and I'm certainly no…

I believe people finally got the point that all their "social engagement" is pretty useless.

So what is useful in your life?

Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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The past 3 months, there hasn't been a single day on HN without a post attacking FB specifically or social media in general by news organizations or other "journalists/writers". Not only that, we get the same generic "I deleted facebook and I feel great" comments.

Certainly this isn't the work of the russian trolls. Then who or what is behind the constant "I hate social media" spam.

Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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post #31
post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anti-facebook articles have been common on HN for years, and it's particularly ubiquitous right now because of all the powerful negative influence it's having in politics.

> negative influence it's having in politics Read, negative toward my side of the politics.

Media sources designed to target confirmation biases, echo chambers, and viral fake news are a negative influence in all politics.

Why do you think they mean only negative towards their side?

Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I deleted my Facebook in 2010 and it stayed deleted until the end of 2016. Now I get invited to more events, my friends no longer feel like distant strangers when I see them for the first time in months and I know how all my family is doing. It really sucks seeing how much more of a life some people have through facebook but research is a lifestyle and I knew what I signed up for. Your miles may vary though as I have…

As someone toying with the idea of "getting back into" social media, how did you go about making your profile "normal"? I'm not the type to take tons of selfies, so do I just start out with a shitty profile picture? I feel like it'll look like a fake account, or me like a weird dude, compared to my friends who all have amazing profiles. ^^^ And this is the type of mentality that makes me not want to use social media…

It's not a big deal, just put as much as you're comfortable with, there's no such thing as "normal usage," everyone is different. I post updates only a few times a year and I don't post pictures. Nobody cares if you aren't using Facebook "enough."

Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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The past 3 months, there hasn't been a single day on HN without a post attacking FB specifically or social media in general by news organizations or other "journalists/writers". Not only that, we get the same generic "I deleted facebook and I feel great" comments. Certainly this isn't the work of the russian trolls. Then who or what is behind the constant "I hate social media" spam.

What if a lot of us actually hate social media.

Re: Facebook Is the Junk Food of Socializing (2015)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I deleted my Facebook in 2010 and it stayed deleted until the end of 2016. Now I get invited to more events, my friends no longer feel like distant strangers when I see them for the first time in months and I know how all my family is doing. It really sucks seeing how much more of a life some people have through facebook but research is a lifestyle and I knew what I signed up for. Your miles may vary though as I have…

As someone toying with the idea of "getting back into" social media, how did you go about making your profile "normal"? I'm not the type to take tons of selfies, so do I just start out with a shitty profile picture? I feel like it'll look like a fake account, or me like a weird dude, compared to my friends who all have amazing profiles. ^^^ And this is the type of mentality that makes me not want to use social media…

I'm the complete opposite. I want to get back into facebook because I want other people to see all the cool stuff I'm doing and feed my ego, but I know that doing it would be inconsistent with my desire for a more free society, and I hate most people anyway.
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