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Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Post by dkersten »

abiox wrote: post #34
neaden wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those are absolutely awful names for tiers.

surely an intentional thing. i'd be tempted to do the same, honestly.

Sure, but they're still terrible (and IMHO somewhat off-putting) tier names. Nothing about the drip branding is making me consider using it, given that I already back a number of people on Patreon. (Of course, there's more to a product than branding, so we will see -- EDIT: as somebody else mentioned, Kickstarter being a PBC does make me more inclined to support this, despite its bad branding)

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Post by no1youknowz »

edwinwee wrote: post #31
no1youknowz wrote: post #23

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I was going to write the exact same response. One day I'm going to write a blog post because the overwhelming response has been very hostile. Even when companies advertise that they do it. Here's my experience so far: Adyen. Overwhelmingly hostile to startups. All telephone numbers get routed to support. So if you call sales, someone in support answers. The individual who answers the phone also has very basic knowled…

Edwin from Stripe here. We're working on phone support, and it'll be rolled out very soon. I'd like to dig into the previous emails you mentioned. Could you email me at edwin@stripe.com?

Hi Edwin,

Phone support is great. Phone SALES, that would be even better.

Honestly, don't worry about the previous emails. They were in the latter part of 2016 and times have moved on. There is connect and Atlas that have answered part of the conversion back then.

After contacting 25 companies in the finance space both in the US and UK. I find better luck with discussing my business with someone not in support. With someone who can actually make a decision or has a direct route to a decision maker. I hope you can understand where I am coming from.

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Post by stevehawk »

kegan_myers_asy wrote: post #26
hundchenkatze wrote: post #5

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Yeah, the name is all kinds of weird. If I give someone money through Drip am I Dripper? Sounds gross.

You are a defective faucet. Every time you contribute you are sending a droplet. Content creators are a drain. This analogy isn't getting any better.

Either that or he has chlamydia or syphillis.

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Post by jonathanjaeger »

zanny wrote: post #36

Personally I am a fan of this only because Kickstarter is a PBC. The most fundamental problem with Patreon is that it is a proprietary web service operated by a for profit company that now controls the incomes of thousands, ranging from hobbyist artists to major productions like Crash Course. It is like everything that is wrong with Facebook (the lock in from networking effects to a closed ecosystem) but made even wo…

A definite benefit is that you can port subscribers (as you mentioned, not closed): "The other big difference is that Drip also aims to be more creator friendly, allowing creators to easily port subscribers to other crowdfunding platforms with this model."

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Post by s73ver_ »

NicoJuicy wrote: post #32
no1youknowz wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was going to write the exact same response. One day I'm going to write a blog post because the overwhelming response has been very hostile. Even when companies advertise that they do it. Here's my experience so far: Adyen. Overwhelmingly hostile to startups. All telephone numbers get routed to support. So if you call sales, someone in support answers. The individual who answers the phone also has very basic knowled…

Cryptocurrency?

While it might be a decent idea to offer it as an option, most people/businesses don't have any cryptocurrency, and have no interest in it.

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Post by s73ver_ »

no1youknowz wrote: post #40
NicoJuicy wrote: post #32

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Cryptocurrency?

Believe it or not. I have looked at this and it's now on my roadmap. As with the business that I am launching, there are additional services to come online. I'll either start my own ICO or using another coin is part of that. Whichever is the path of least resistance! I have seen that no limit coin can be purchased by Visa and there are stores in the US that take that for physical products. So as Mike Tyson says: "Eve…

Why do you need your own coin? What value would your own coin bring to anyone else?

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Post by Hoasi »

zanny wrote: post #36

Personally I am a fan of this only because Kickstarter is a PBC. The most fundamental problem with Patreon is that it is a proprietary web service operated by a for profit company that now controls the incomes of thousands, ranging from hobbyist artists to major productions like Crash Course. It is like everything that is wrong with Facebook (the lock in from networking effects to a closed ecosystem) but made even wo…

Good point, thanks for mentioning it. I always thought Patreon was actually a Public Benefit Corporation.

Re: Kickstarter launches Drip, a Patreon competitor

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Post by olalonde »

seibelj wrote: post #16

My idea for paying for open source code would be to auto-scan your codebase, find all open source projects, let you set a donation amount ($5, $10, $100, $1000) per month, and it would auto-donate to every project. Then give you a nice tax writeoff summary for the non-profits. Obviously many details to work out, but I could see a company willing to pay $500 per month if it was easy to donate to all the tools and proj…

The problem with this approach is that trivial libraries (e.g. https://github.com/visionmedia/debug) that are widely used would get a disproportionate amount of donations.
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