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Re: Firefox Quantum

#41

Post by dingo_bat »

toomanybeersies wrote: post #22

Firefox has definitely been getting better over the past year or two. I've always used Firefox, since Chrome doesn't have the ability to scroll through tabs, they just get smaller and smaller on the tab bar. I've never understood why the feature hasn't been added, it seems pretty minor. Firefox also lazy loads existing tabs on startup. Anyway, for a while, around 2011-2012, Firefox had terrible memory and stability i…

> I'm surprised more tech people don't use it, considering the tech communities love for power and the ability to customise things.

I used to be pretty fanatical about Firefox. But when it got so slow that simple scrolling started dropping frames, I had to switch.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#42

Post by yogthos »

I switched to the beta a couple of months ago, and it's just better than Chrome in every way. It's both faster and seems to have better memory usage.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#43

Post by werid »

... and almost all my extensions will cease to work.

16 legacy, 4 ready for 57. a few of them i use very often: automatic save folder, save file to, video downloadhelper, downthemall!, search by image for google, image zoom, copy links

Re: Firefox Quantum

#44

Post by alxlaz »

marksellers wrote: post #6

Maybe these are silly things to complain about with fellow techies, but the things that prevent me from switching to Firefox: The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. When opening a new window, the address bar isn't the first thing to receive focus, unlike on Chrome. With Chrome, I just bang out WINKEY + C + H + R + ENTER + part of query +…

Are you running Linux by any chance? For some reason, huge paddings are now very popular in GTK applications with... the result you mention. All GTK3 applications seem to have huge widgets for me, even with compact themes. Frankly, I stopped trying to solve this.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#45

Post by whoisthemachine »

flohofwoe wrote: post #20
marksellers wrote: post #6

Maybe these are silly things to complain about with fellow techies, but the things that prevent me from switching to Firefox: The menu bars are enormous even on a compact theme. Bigger than on Chrome. I only have so much vertical space to spare. When opening a new window, the address bar isn't the first thing to receive focus, unlike on Chrome. With Chrome, I just bang out WINKEY + C + H + R + ENTER + part of query +…

Looks like in Firefox v56 you need to change the start page to "blank" in the preferences (edit: to get the address bar focused after opening a window). However in current Nightly (which is on v58) the input focus goes straight to the address bar, even in the default settings, so looks like more users complained ;) I'm just using Ctrl-L to focus the address bar, works on all operating systems and browsers.

F6 works as well in all OS's I've used (Linux Mint and Windows).

Re: Firefox Quantum

#46

Post by barrkel »

suprfnk wrote: post #32
imple wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.imgur.com/hWl9YR8.png A screenshot from my screen just now, running FF58 and Chrome side by side. Firefox's menu bar is smaller.

This is a bit misleading. When you maximize Chrome's window the space above the tabs disappears, making Chrome's footprint smaller than that of Firefox. Though I still wonder why Chrome's menu bar enlarges when the window is not maximized. Edit: A screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/yabXSEz.png

Maximized browsers on wide screen monitors aren't very usable though, you end up with loads of pointless whitespace. The browser works best with a roughly square viewport on 1080p, or tending towards portrait on 1440p.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by piyush_soni »

While it's going to be a great release (have been trying the Quantum beta on side), I'm very sad to see many of the extremely useful extensions that will just stop working as soon as I switch.

Re: Firefox Quantum

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Post by jraph »

suprfnk wrote: post #32
imple wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.imgur.com/hWl9YR8.png A screenshot from my screen just now, running FF58 and Chrome side by side. Firefox's menu bar is smaller.

This is a bit misleading. When you maximize Chrome's window the space above the tabs disappears, making Chrome's footprint smaller than that of Firefox. Though I still wonder why Chrome's menu bar enlarges when the window is not maximized. Edit: A screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/yabXSEz.png

I wondered the same thing a while ago and I would think this is to ease dragging the window with the mouse, which you may want to do easily when the window is not maximized.

I'd really like Firefox on Linux to hide the window title bar (at least when maximized) and put the close / maximize / reduce buttons in the tab bar (or make it an option). The tab bar does already allow one to move the window, at least on KDE. Then, Firefox could adopt the same kind of behavior as Chrome for this.

Re: Firefox Quantum

#49

Post by km3k »

werid wrote: post #43

... and almost all my extensions will cease to work. 16 legacy, 4 ready for 57. a few of them i use very often: automatic save folder, save file to, video downloadhelper, downthemall!, search by image for google, image zoom, copy links

You can switch to Firefox ESR to keep using your extensions and give the extension authors more time. ESR 52 will be supported with fixes until June.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/

Re: Firefox Quantum

#50

Post by jmarinez »

Go Rust!

Sorry, had to say that. Incredible architecture changes were made, but without the language to support them it simply wouldn't have been possible.

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