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Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by belorn »

curiousgal wrote: post #28
tabtab wrote: post #16

Being we've had foreign governments messing with our democracy using social media and hacking, this should be fully investigated. I'm not claiming they are interfering, only saying we should rule out the possibility using our best forensics.

>messing with our democracy The U.S. has had a flawed democracy regardless of foreign meddling. Americans do not even elect their president directly. Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#Democracy_Inde...

Do not most nations elect the head of state indirectly?

Here in Sweden the largest block with most seats get to chose the Prime minister and the seats a decided through the general election. Each seats in turn do not represent a set number of voters, but rather represent different areas in order to not let higher population areas completely dominate low population areas. As a result, citizens of the island of gotland which its two seats has almost half the normal amount of voters per seat, based on the idea that people from there should be represented by at least two different political parties and out of 349 seats it don't really make any difference in the big picture.

Democratic systems are complex. It doesn't make it flawed.

Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by sounds »

Schizotypy wrote: post #40

Why doesn't someone do the same thing but for net neutrality? Just make a bot to spam with fake or dead names in favor of neutrality to balance it out. The FCC apparently won't do anything either way so why not

This is a technically creative approach, and I think the internet's future is unfortunately going to be something like this.

But I for one would rather take the high road. Please call your senator(s) and representative(s) and let them know how upset this all is making you!

Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by ShabbosGoy »

sounds wrote: post #42
Schizotypy wrote: post #40

Why doesn't someone do the same thing but for net neutrality? Just make a bot to spam with fake or dead names in favor of neutrality to balance it out. The FCC apparently won't do anything either way so why not

This is a technically creative approach, and I think the internet's future is unfortunately going to be something like this. But I for one would rather take the high road. Please call your senator(s) and representative(s) and let them know how upset this all is making you!

How about ditching Web 2.0 entirely? It's time to head to Web 3.0, an era where the Internet will be truly decentralized and free.

Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by jogjayr »

excalibur wrote: post #2

> However, if you go to his house on 11 Tee Pee Row, you will unfortunately speak to a kind person who will tell you that John has been passed away since 2016 and no one else there has the same name. This is my new favorite name for a residential street.

You may also like Lake Jackson, TX where you can shop at the Aldi on This Way St or eat at the Wurst Haus on That Way St.

Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by deadmetheny »

charred_toast wrote: post #19

Can we acknowledge we live in a dystopian era yet? What further has to happen?

People have to have a measurably worse life now than they did before, for one. "I don't like President Trump" isn't a valid response, even if he is an idiot.

Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by GCU-Empiricist »

curiousgal wrote: post #28
tabtab wrote: post #16

Being we've had foreign governments messing with our democracy using social media and hacking, this should be fully investigated. I'm not claiming they are interfering, only saying we should rule out the possibility using our best forensics.

>messing with our democracy The U.S. has had a flawed democracy regardless of foreign meddling. Americans do not even elect their president directly. Edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index#Democracy_Inde...

>Americans do not even elect their president directly.

This is a design feature, not a bug. The founding fathers would close your trouble ticket citing the federalist papers.

Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by anigbrowl »

Schizotypy wrote: post #40

Why doesn't someone do the same thing but for net neutrality? Just make a bot to spam with fake or dead names in favor of neutrality to balance it out. The FCC apparently won't do anything either way so why not

Because they'll be denounced as hypocrites and possibly prosecuted. We're not dealing with people who play fair here, and playing legal jeopardy when you're in the defensive posture is self-defeating. There are other tactics that are more effective and don't compromise the moral position to the same degree, eg digging into the financial interests of the opponent, exposing their operations (as in this story) etc.

When I mention the moral level I don't mean in a kindergargertenish way. The moral dimension of conflict is a key part of modern military strategy, because success in war, as an elaboration of politics, depends heavily on public buy-in.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Boyd_(military_strategist...

Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by hinkley »

ShabbosGoy wrote: post #43
sounds wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a technically creative approach, and I think the internet's future is unfortunately going to be something like this. But I for one would rather take the high road. Please call your senator(s) and representative(s) and let them know how upset this all is making you!

How about ditching Web 2.0 entirely? It's time to head to Web 3.0, an era where the Internet will be truly decentralized and free.

So we are talking about people pretending to be people they aren’t, and your solution is decentralize the whole thing?

Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by anigbrowl »

ShabbosGoy wrote: post #43
sounds wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a technically creative approach, and I think the internet's future is unfortunately going to be something like this. But I for one would rather take the high road. Please call your senator(s) and representative(s) and let them know how upset this all is making you!

How about ditching Web 2.0 entirely? It's time to head to Web 3.0, an era where the Internet will be truly decentralized and free.

Yes, but how? I got really into Semantic web stuff maybe 5-6 years ago and I thought it would have taken over by now but it seems to have withered for lack of development. You're welcome to email me with your thoughts if you prefer.

Re: Dead People Mysteriously Support the FCC's Attack on Net Neutrality

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Post by shostack »

mattnewton wrote: post #21
tabtab wrote: post #16

Being we've had foreign governments messing with our democracy using social media and hacking, this should be fully investigated. I'm not claiming they are interfering, only saying we should rule out the possibility using our best forensics.

I don’t know why we have to point fingers abroad, when there is so much incentive at home to fudge these results from the telecom companies about to be deregulated.

I think the concern here is that the line between home incentive and foreign incentive has become indecipherably blurred by recent events with this administration.

We're finding out that people across the entire breadth of the Trump administration have ties to shady Russian dealings. Given the criticism over certain media outlets, and how those are increasingly intertwined with the delivery of said media, it seems a fair question to raise.

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