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> I am very privacy conscious How did you evaluate Telegram to decide that you trust it?
I don't trust them, it's just that I can use them. The real problem is requiring a smartphone.
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wow, sorry. my bad. So I guess there is a way to use signal without having a phone nowadays! That's a great news! I will try right now.
You still need a phone with a registered Signal on iOS or Android initially to activate the desktop version (sorry if that wasn't clear), but you can turn your phone off after. Edit: It actually has the option to register without smartphone, but it's only enabled in the debug versions.
> Linux distributions supporting APT, like Ubuntu or Debian Oh come on guys. Don't forget Fedora. Fedora means SELinux. SELinux means you are getting the people who value security.
> SELinux means you are getting the people who value security Proper, very strict sandboxes implemented with seccomp & friends are much more secure. You simply block the large majority of system calls. Surprisingly, they are often easier to set up.
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eh, for signal, fine. it's the companies with tons of cash and employees that don't have an excuse.
You mean Facebook?
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Can we please stop calling Webapps that come with the whole browser desktop apps? The fact that you give me to install a dedicated browser for your web app does not magically make it desktop app. It makes it a worse web app, which does not even share the browser runtime with other web apps. Desktop apps are supposed to be: native code, well integrated in the OS, still working when the net is down and using system wid…
> Desktop apps are supposed to be: native code That excludes every single .NET application. > well integrated in the OS Don't even know what you mean by this. > still working when the net is down Not necessarily, a "native" app for Signal still wouldn't work if the net was down. > and using system widgets and OS look&feel I guess that excludes pretty much anything built with Qt.
Sure I can understand the reasons behind it, it's JavaScript, programmers for that are abundant, is multi platform because web, but still. If you look at the functionality offered versus the resources used it's just ridiculous.
I'd like to see a graph of code/memory used vs unused in such binaries.
Signal Desktop is not really standalone, because you still need to pair it with your phone. And the phone should be turned on. I am very privacy conscious, and I don't use a smartphone, at all, because it's basically a spying device in your pocket. Why Signal is all about privacy and then it forces me to pair it with a telephone? Telegram desktop is really standalone. They require a telephone number too (and that's v…
Signal Desktop is not really standalone, because you still need to pair it with your phone. And the phone should be turned on. I am very privacy conscious, and I don't use a smartphone, at all, because it's basically a spying device in your pocket. Why Signal is all about privacy and then it forces me to pair it with a telephone? Telegram desktop is really standalone. They require a telephone number too (and that's v…
Is Telegram as secure as Signal though?
Really happy to have it as a standalone app outside of Chrome now.