How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA? • Hacker News Board

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by tormeh » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 12:49 AM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #13

cporios wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google pays 120k+ for junior developers in Switzerland.

Switzerland is not in the EU as OP asked, also you spend a large chunk of the gains over Germany on higher living cost (rent, but also basic stuff like cheeseburgers is up to 3x the price of Germany). Oh and they have both a strict immigration regime as well as a huge right-wing problem, which might be another factor against moving to Switzerland for work.

>Switzerland is not in the EU as OP asked

OP asked about EU/EEA. Switzerland is not in the EU but it could just as well be in EEA. Only reason it's not is because it has to be neutral on paper for historical reasons. De facto Switzerland is clearly EEA-like.

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by smegel » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 12:51 AM UTC

> Should I must move into management role for this?

Do you want to be a manager? If not, you will be trading a life of misery for a modest pay raise.

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by nimchimpsky » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 1:01 AM UTC

Yoric wrote: post #2

I suspect that the only companies with this kind of salary in the EU are Palantir and trading companies (e.g. Jane Street). So, it kind of depends on what you're willing to do for money. I'm personally not quite enthusiastic at the idea of working for either.

Yeah that's total rubbish.

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by eskimo87 » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 1:04 AM UTC

cloudhead wrote: post #17

I know several engineers making over 100k in the EU. You just have to be really good at what you do and pick a company which pays well.

What companies would that be? If you could name few..

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by eskimo87 » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 1:06 AM UTC

HatchedLake721 wrote: post #6

Look at contracting and London. There’s tons of £500+ per day rates dev contracts around. https://www.jobserve.com/gb/en/JobSearch.aspx?shid=E1AD4AE0F...

Thanks.. but not an EU/GB citizen.. won't be possible contracting in U.K.

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by cyberpunk0 » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 1:07 AM UTC

neoham wrote: post #34

Plenty of contracting roles paying £500-600/day in London, a few even up to £800 (and 'Head of'/CTO level consulting gigs hovering around £1k/day although very rare as most of those positions are perm). I know some rather mediocre developers on £550 day rates. For perm positions, such roles aren't too uncommon for senior/lead level devs in finance, tech consultancy (doing SAP/Salesforce work at some place like Accent…

$500 a day programming?

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by eskimo87 » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 1:09 AM UTC

hobo_mark wrote: post #8

If the salary is all you are after and do not mind the culture shock, did you look into relocating to Switzerland?

I've heard that a lot.. but a) Swiss living cost is expensive b) Difficult to find job as non European

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by eskimo87 » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 1:13 AM UTC

simonebrunozzi wrote: post #24

Sorry mate, but if you'd like some good advice from this crowd, you should spend more than 20 seconds to describe your issue and the type of suggestions you are looking for. That's probably lesson #1 in how to get to a 100k salary :) You don't mention: where you are located; what current job you have; what's DS; what kind of dev work have you done. Also, any github / stack overflow link, so that we can get a better s…

I'm a non European expat based in Dublin but willing to relocate anywhere in EU. DS- Data Scientist, niche in the area of IR/NLP/ML with MS in AI.

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by eskimo87 » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 1:21 AM UTC

literallycancer wrote: post #32

mschuster91 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Switzerland is not in the EU as OP asked, also you spend a large chunk of the gains over Germany on higher living cost (rent, but also basic stuff like cheeseburgers is up to 3x the price of Germany). Oh and they have both a strict immigration regime as well as a huge right-wing problem, which might be another factor against moving to Switzerland for work.

You can pretty much just come to Switzerland and work if you are an EU citizen, so might as well be. Zurich has probably the best ratio of earning potential to COL in the world (for the average person, not necessarily for software engineers). If you are cheap/thrifty you can even go do your shopping in a neighboring country, since Switzerland is so small.

I am Non EEA citizen :( true that Swiss is not immigration friendly.. difficult to find jobs

Re: How to break into 100k+ Euro salary in EU/EEA?

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Post by justinholmes » Sun, Oct 22, 2017, 1:28 AM UTC

mschuster91 wrote: post #31

toyg wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK, contractors are considered high-risk for mortgages and car loans. Even if you manage to lock-in a mortgage before starting your contractor career, it will make things difficult should you wish to remortgage (which is almost mandatory every 3 to 5 years, these days...).

Oh yeah, totally forgot about that one... and in case you end up broke/in debt with contracting, your personal credit score will be screwed up, too.

You can get a contractor mortgage based on your day rate in UK.