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I just released F.lux for Ubuntu (fades your screens at night)

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Re: I just released F.lux for Ubuntu (fades your screens at night)

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Post by nuclear_eclipse »

jlcgull wrote: post #40
there wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that it is closed source should not be a problem unless you are RMS! um, or unless you use an operating system or architecture for which they don't build a binary, so you can't use it no matter how well it works as advertised.

Sure. OSS is great and I am a big fan. But which major OS is f.lux not available for, again? Your argument in the present context is exactly what I was referring to when I mentioned RMS! Also, f.lux does work as advertised on the OSs that it is available for. :-)

> But which major OS is f.lux not available for, again?

FreeBSD

> f.lux does work as advertised on the OSs that it is available for.

Re: I just released F.lux for Ubuntu (fades your screens at night)

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Post by chengas123 »

winthrowe wrote: post #37
chengas123 wrote: post #34

That's awesome!! Thank you! I just gave up my Windows machine for Ubuntu and F.lux was one of the things I missed most. Is there a .deb I can download directly? I don't think I can add new repositories on my work computer.

you can install a deb package, but not add a source? That seems like an odd configuration to me.

agreed, but i wasn't the one to make that decision :o)

Re: I just released F.lux for Ubuntu (fades your screens at night)

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Post by nuxi »

there wrote: post #19
paulsmith wrote: post #4

A similar program for automatically changing the color temperature, Redshift [1], was recently highlighted by Lifehacker and others as an alternative to the commandline-only XFlux, inspired by F.lux. EDIT: One advantage Redshift has is that it automatically determines your lng/lat based on your current "home" location in the Clock applet. [1]: http://jonls.dk/redshift/

redshift is also open source and thus works on other platforms, where f.lux is closed source.

It works on other platforms because it's open source? Isn't that a bit of an overstatement? For the fun of it, I just downloaded this and tried to compile on my Linux box:

  ~/tmp/tmp# uname -a
  Linux susie 2.6.27.39-0.2-default #1 SMP 2009-11-23 12:57:38 +0100 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
  ~/tmp/tmp# cat /etc/SuSE-release
  openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64)
  VERSION = 11.1

  ~/tmp/tmp# wget http://launchpad.net/redshift/trunk/1.4.1/+download/redshift-1.4.1.tar.bz2
  ~/tmp/tmp# tar xf redshift-1.4.1.tar.bz2
  ~/tmp/tmp# cd redshift-1.4.1/
  ~/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1# ./configure
  [...]
   redshift 1.4.1

      prefix:             /usr/local
      compiler:           gcc -std=gnu99
      cflags:             -g -O2
      ldflags:

      Adjustment methods:
      RANDR:              yes
      VidMode:            yes
      WinGDI:             no

      Location providers:
      GNOME Clock:        no

      GUI:                statusicon

  ~/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1# make
  ~/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1# make
  make  all-recursive
  make[1]: Entering directory `/root/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1'
  Making all in src
  make[2]: Entering directory `/root/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1/src'
  Making all in gtk-redshift
  make[3]: Entering directory `/root/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1/src/gtk-redshift'
  sed -e "s|\@gui_module\@|statusicon|g" gtk-redshift.in > gtk-redshift
  make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1/src/gtk-redshift'
  make[3]: Entering directory `/root/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1/src'
    CC     redshift.o
  In file included from redshift.c:60:
  gamma-randr.h:33: error: expected specifier-qualifier-list before xcb_randr_crtc_t
  make[3]: *** [redshift.o] Error 1
  make[3]: Leaving directory `/root/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1/src'
  make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[2]: Leaving directory `/root/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1/src'
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/root/tmp/tmp/redshift-1.4.1'
  make: *** [all] Error 2
This is Linux mind you, not some AIX box on which it will never compile, even though it has X11 installed. (And yes, I know I can disable RANDR in the above case and it will compile, that's beside the point)

Re: I just released F.lux for Ubuntu (fades your screens at night)

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Post by nuclear_eclipse »

nuxi wrote: post #43
there wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

redshift is also open source and thus works on other platforms, where f.lux is closed source.

It works on other platforms because it's open source? Isn't that a bit of an overstatement? For the fun of it, I just downloaded this and tried to compile on my Linux box: ~/tmp/tmp# uname -a Linux susie 2.6.27.39-0.2-default #1 SMP 2009-11-23 12:57:38 +0100 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ~/tmp/tmp# cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) VERSION = 11.1 ~/tmp/tmp# wget http://launchpad.net/redshift/trunk/1.4.1/+…

The point is not that it works out of the box on all platforms, but that if it doesn't work on your platform, you have the source code available, so you can make it work on your platform by changing the software. You can't do that with closed-source binaries.

Re: I just released F.lux for Ubuntu (fades your screens at night)

#46

Post by there »

nuxi wrote: post #43
there wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

redshift is also open source and thus works on other platforms, where f.lux is closed source.

It works on other platforms because it's open source? Isn't that a bit of an overstatement? For the fun of it, I just downloaded this and tried to compile on my Linux box: ~/tmp/tmp# uname -a Linux susie 2.6.27.39-0.2-default #1 SMP 2009-11-23 12:57:38 +0100 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ~/tmp/tmp# cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) VERSION = 11.1 ~/tmp/tmp# wget http://launchpad.net/redshift/trunk/1.4.1/+…

this discussion is completely pointless, but yes, it can work on other platforms because it's open source.

i was able to compile it just fine on my openbsd laptop.

Re: I just released F.lux for Ubuntu (fades your screens at night)

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Post by nuxi »

nuclear_eclipse wrote: post #44
nuxi wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It works on other platforms because it's open source? Isn't that a bit of an overstatement? For the fun of it, I just downloaded this and tried to compile on my Linux box: ~/tmp/tmp# uname -a Linux susie 2.6.27.39-0.2-default #1 SMP 2009-11-23 12:57:38 +0100 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ~/tmp/tmp# cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) VERSION = 11.1 ~/tmp/tmp# wget http://launchpad.net/redshift/trunk/1.4.1/+…

The point is not that it works out of the box on all platforms, but that if it doesn't work on your platform, you have the source code available, so you can make it work on your platform by changing the software. You can't do that with closed-source binaries.

With that I can mostly agree (but the comment implied otherwise).

But - and this is sometimes a huge but - open source software (OSS) is more and more dependant on other OSS, making it sometimes next to impossible to port it to other platforms. Try building VLC from scratch and you'll see what I mean (you can use Linux). Furthermore, API changes are quite common for OSS even in minor version updates and that creates an additional mess (dependency hell), as was clearly demonstrated in my example above.

It's not all black and white.

Re: I just released F.lux for Ubuntu (fades your screens at night)

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Post by nuxi »

there wrote: post #46
nuxi wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It works on other platforms because it's open source? Isn't that a bit of an overstatement? For the fun of it, I just downloaded this and tried to compile on my Linux box: ~/tmp/tmp# uname -a Linux susie 2.6.27.39-0.2-default #1 SMP 2009-11-23 12:57:38 +0100 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux ~/tmp/tmp# cat /etc/SuSE-release openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) VERSION = 11.1 ~/tmp/tmp# wget http://launchpad.net/redshift/trunk/1.4.1/+…

this discussion is completely pointless, but yes, it can work on other platforms because it's open source. i was able to compile it just fine on my openbsd laptop.

There's a huge difference between "thus works on other platforms" and "it can work on other platforms".
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