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Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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Or it could just be trimming some fat.

"Trimming fat" is a funny euphemism for sending people into unemployment.

Not all people add value to an organization, and they might stop adding value too. Unfortunately, it's not possible to know this for sure prior to hiring, so the only realistic way to maintain the organization is with constant pruning.

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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It's important to keep in mind that Tesla (like Walmart, Whole Foods, and Amazon) has been targeted by big labor for infiltration and union formation [1] [2] This is not necessarily because working conditions make workers feel that they would prefer the tradeoffs of unionization, but simply because Tesla is much more competitive without its workforce unionized, and so labor groups that are entrenched in legacy car ma…

Of all the automobile companies in America, Tesla workers need to unionize the most. And what better way to demonstrate that than by Tesla firing hundreds of workers and replacing them like cogs in a machine.

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> Though Tesla cited performance as the reason for the firings, the source told Reuters he was fired in spite of never having been given a bad review. Highly odd for a company that's just starting production of its highest-volume product ever. Is there something about Tesla beyond the hype we should know? If I were an investor, this news would have me quite concerned. You would think they can't hire fast enough.

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Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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> pro-union workers were among those fired this week. Some believe they were targeted I hate sneakily-worded sentences like this. Also among them, were women, hetrosexuals, and probably one or two Vietnam veterans. Some believe they were targetted.

How's it sneaky? Business management and shareholders routinely try to shut down unionizing all the time throughout the last two centuries. My buddy is a manager at a national retail chain and often comments on how proactively anti-union they are, just like their competitors. Other demographic groups like the ones you pointed out really don't have that same collective effect on the bottom line for shareholders across…

It's sneaky because it suggests that people were targeted because they were pro-union, without going so far as to make a claim of fact (which would open them to libel claims).

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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It's important to keep in mind that Tesla (like Walmart, Whole Foods, and Amazon) has been targeted by big labor for infiltration and union formation [1] [2] This is not necessarily because working conditions make workers feel that they would prefer the tradeoffs of unionization, but simply because Tesla is much more competitive without its workforce unionized, and so labor groups that are entrenched in legacy car ma…

I feel like people who "strongly support organized labor" don't write like this about organized labor ("infiltration and union formation"?). Its _workforce_ is not "vulnerable to attack" from big labor, its bottom line is, and to the benefit of its workers. That's how unions work.

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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It's important to keep in mind that Tesla (like Walmart, Whole Foods, and Amazon) has been targeted by big labor for infiltration and union formation [1] [2] This is not necessarily because working conditions make workers feel that they would prefer the tradeoffs of unionization, but simply because Tesla is much more competitive without its workforce unionized, and so labor groups that are entrenched in legacy car ma…

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Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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Strange that always happens at the bottom of the org chart instead of the top.

Really? I don't agree. Average CXO position lasts 3-5 years... https://www.marketingprofs.com/charts/2017/31713/the-average... Lots of fat trimmed all around. Kalanick, etc...

Their severance is a little better in average though....

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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It's important to keep in mind that Tesla (like Walmart, Whole Foods, and Amazon) has been targeted by big labor for infiltration and union formation [1] [2] This is not necessarily because working conditions make workers feel that they would prefer the tradeoffs of unionization, but simply because Tesla is much more competitive without its workforce unionized, and so labor groups that are entrenched in legacy car ma…

> significant power granted by favorable laws that far exceed the market power they derive simply from organizing labor

That is the whole point of unions, yes.

Union membership/power has been steadily decreasing over the past 50 years. To me, it seems disingenuous to refer to "big labor" as if they're some sort of powerhouse given the way that corporate interests have been chipping away at them.

Also, not that I have any proof that they are, but firing employees for being pro-union is illegal.

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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Company's don't get to decide. It is written in law. Check the WARN act, but the key threshold seems to be 500 workers at a single facility. As an employer, getting rid of your worst 1% of workers once a year is just housekeeping.

"Housekeeping" is a funny euphemism for sending hundreds of people into unemployment.

Like it or not, US companies don't have any obligation to be a social safety net for their worst performing employees.

Re: Tesla fired hundreds of employees in past week

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Strange that always happens at the bottom of the org chart instead of the top.

Really? I don't agree. Average CXO position lasts 3-5 years... https://www.marketingprofs.com/charts/2017/31713/the-average... Lots of fat trimmed all around. Kalanick, etc...

I don't see how you can possibly construe Kalanick's firing as a result of 'trimming the fat'. He generated controversies for years and he was finally taken out in the face of massive public backlash.
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