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Re: OpenBSD 6.2

#41

Post by pgeorgi »

notaplumber wrote: post #5

> The i386 and amd64 platforms have switched to using clang(1) as the base system compiler. Nice!

Followed by

> Disable some optimizations in clang(1) due to incompatibility with security.

Re: OpenBSD 6.2

#42

Post by notaplumber »

pgeorgi wrote: post #41
notaplumber wrote: post #5

> The i386 and amd64 platforms have switched to using clang(1) as the base system compiler. Nice!

Followed by > Disable some optimizations in clang(1) due to incompatibility with security.

Some. And for good reason, IMHO.

https://marc.info/?l=openbsd-cvs&m=150125592126437&w=2

Re: OpenBSD 6.2

#44

Post by ams6110 »

technofiend wrote: post #29
christophilus wrote: post #2

Off topic a bit, but anyone here use OpenBSD? I'd be interested in hearing why you use it, and what your experience has been like.

Same as others below I use it as a firewall and have used OpenBSD since it was available for my Sparcstation IPC. Don't get me wrong - my lab desktop at work is Fedora 26, my little lab boxes are mostly running Debian Stretch and I'm an RCHE current on things like SystemD who has a ton of RH boxes I support day in and day out. But OpenBSD is very old school UNIX in its simplicity; there is no cruft in the base OS bec…

sysmerge(8) will handle all that config file diffing and change reconciliation. Of course not a bad idea at all to back up important stuff before an upgrade.

Re: OpenBSD 6.2

#45

Post by protomyth »

christophilus wrote: post #2

Off topic a bit, but anyone here use OpenBSD? I'd be interested in hearing why you use it, and what your experience has been like.

Use it on all servers except our file server (FreeBSD and ZFS) and the required other software servers (RedHat and Windows). I like the ease of configuration and consistency.

The new syspatch has saved some time and other than getting a hang of disk partitions, the install is super easy.

Re: OpenBSD 6.2

#46

Post by technofiend »

ams6110 wrote: post #44
technofiend wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same as others below I use it as a firewall and have used OpenBSD since it was available for my Sparcstation IPC. Don't get me wrong - my lab desktop at work is Fedora 26, my little lab boxes are mostly running Debian Stretch and I'm an RCHE current on things like SystemD who has a ton of RH boxes I support day in and day out. But OpenBSD is very old school UNIX in its simplicity; there is no cruft in the base OS bec…

sysmerge(8) will handle all that config file diffing and change reconciliation. Of course not a bad idea at all to back up important stuff before an upgrade.

I'm aware but I built the habit before that was available.

Re: OpenBSD 6.2

#48

Post by wahern »

fao_ wrote: post #34
dbolgheroni wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why people put so much emphasis on the boot time nowadays. I have a 5 years old laptop which takes less than 30 seconds to boot, with Xorg already. Even if you power cycle every day. If you ACPI sleep (and it works great), you I'll have to boot your machine once every 6 months, when there is a new OpenBSD release. I would much rather "spend 30 seconds" every 6 months to boot the OS I want to run for 12 ho…

> every 6 months Most people don't want or can't afford to have their computer running 24/7. Especially if they're not using it for more than 11 hours of that day. And if you use more than one OS on one computer, fast startup can save you a lot of time switching between those. > I'm not sure people realize how much complexity you have to add to make a system boot even a couple of seconds faster. Not true. I shaved 20…

  Most people don't want or can't afford to have their
  computer running 24/7
I guess I shouldn't make too many assumptions. I'm sure plenty of people are still using Windows on 10-year-old towers attached to CRTs. But my Macbook Air goes several months without a reboot, as did my previous one, and the one before it, going back at least 10 years. I don't even think about it. My servers are rebooted much more often, simply because of kernel patches and upgrades. Fortunately startup is usually quick for both OpenBSD and Linux as, ironically, there are far fewer services and the hardware is less complex than typical consumer machines.

Re: OpenBSD 6.2

#49

Post by milcron »

fao_ wrote: post #34
dbolgheroni wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get why people put so much emphasis on the boot time nowadays. I have a 5 years old laptop which takes less than 30 seconds to boot, with Xorg already. Even if you power cycle every day. If you ACPI sleep (and it works great), you I'll have to boot your machine once every 6 months, when there is a new OpenBSD release. I would much rather "spend 30 seconds" every 6 months to boot the OS I want to run for 12 ho…

> every 6 months Most people don't want or can't afford to have their computer running 24/7. Especially if they're not using it for more than 11 hours of that day. And if you use more than one OS on one computer, fast startup can save you a lot of time switching between those. > I'm not sure people realize how much complexity you have to add to make a system boot even a couple of seconds faster. Not true. I shaved 20…

> Most people don't want or can't afford to have their computer running 24/7.

I'm always telling my family and friends to reboot their damn computers every now and then. In my experience most people never turn their PCs off.

Re: OpenBSD 6.2

#50

Post by edwinnathaniel »

Has anyone ever installed OpenBSD for Macbook White (MB 5,2)?

I'm interested to resurrect this laptop since Apple no longer support (newer OSX can't be installed) the hardware.

I would love to see OpenBSD + Openbox + Crunchbang theme/window-decorator.

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