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Am I the only paranoid one who thinks this is just Google's way of capturing millions of faces in their database? Or did Apple beat them to it?

The faces are unlabeled, and I'm not sure what that data would be good for. If Google really wanted face data, they could look at:

- Gmail / Google Plus / Google Apps profile pictures

- Google Street View

- Google Hangouts

- implementing a primitive Face ID or Snapchat-style camera on Google Android

- the large mass of face pictures that they index with Google Images

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#42

be aware, at least in Chrome, once you give teachablemachine.withgoogle.com permission to use you camera, unless you revoke that permission is has permission to use your camera without further permission including from iframes. In other words every ad from and analytics from Google could start injecting camera access. I wish chrome would give the option to only give permission "this time" and I wish it didn't allow c…

If this happened, the Google Chrome tab would show a camera. Many webcams have adjacent LEDs that identify that they are activated.

Google could theoretically release compromised versions of Google Chrome and only use the permission on devices where webcam LEDs are unlikely (e.g. smartphones), but this is going deep into tin-foil-hat territory.

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#43

Am I the only paranoid one who thinks this is just Google's way of capturing millions of faces in their database? Or did Apple beat them to it?

Facebook beat them to it... that's the whole reason for tagged images imo. Then they can relate identities with each other and with exif gps data to track their movements over time.

Yeah it's a little hilarious how people just keep giving Facebook more and more data to experiment with.

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#44

Am I the only paranoid one who thinks this is just Google's way of capturing millions of faces in their database? Or did Apple beat them to it?

Claims like these make privacy-focused efforts less valuable, and I wish people wouldn't make them.

What value is there in taking care to store biometric data only locally, in a separate chip inaccessible even to the OS, if people will simply claim it's equivalent to keeping a remote database of millions of faces?

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook beat them to it... that's the whole reason for tagged images imo. Then they can relate identities with each other and with exif gps data to track their movements over time.

Yeah it's a little hilarious how people just keep giving Facebook more and more data to experiment with.

HN discussions tend to devolve into rants about privacy. There are a lot of repeated discussions that occur here. They overwhelm the discussion about the actual technology

https://h4labs.wordpress.com/2017/09/27/groundhog-day-amazon...

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Facebook beat them to it... that's the whole reason for tagged images imo. Then they can relate identities with each other and with exif gps data to track their movements over time.

Yeah it's a little hilarious how people just keep giving Facebook more and more data to experiment with.

Once the big data genie is out of the bottle, you can't put it back in.

http://magarshak.com/blog/?p=169

Re: Teachable Machine: Teach a machine using your camera, live in the browser

#48

Am I the only paranoid one who thinks this is just Google's way of capturing millions of faces in their database? Or did Apple beat them to it?

The faces are unlabeled, and I'm not sure what that data would be good for. If Google really wanted face data, they could look at: - Gmail / Google Plus / Google Apps profile pictures - Google Street View - Google Hangouts - implementing a primitive Face ID or Snapchat-style camera on Google Android - the large mass of face pictures that they index with Google Images

Android has had face unlock for ages

Re: Teachable Machine: Teach a machine using your camera, live in the browser

#49

Am I the only paranoid one who thinks this is just Google's way of capturing millions of faces in their database? Or did Apple beat them to it?

Claims like these make privacy-focused efforts less valuable, and I wish people wouldn't make them. What value is there in taking care to store biometric data only locally, in a separate chip inaccessible even to the OS, if people will simply claim it's equivalent to keeping a remote database of millions of faces?

People will be much less likely to make those claims if you clearly state where the data is being stored. This article + their project page doesn't mention anything about privacy.

I don't know anything about Squeezenet, but it makes a lot of calls to storage.googleapis.com. I wouldn't be surprised if it's making some PUT requests. https://github.com/googlecreativelab/teachable-machine/blob/...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claims like these make privacy-focused efforts less valuable, and I wish people wouldn't make them. What value is there in taking care to store biometric data only locally, in a separate chip inaccessible even to the OS, if people will simply claim it's equivalent to keeping a remote database of millions of faces?

People will be much less likely to make those claims if you clearly state where the data is being stored. This article + their project page doesn't mention anything about privacy. I don't know anything about Squeezenet, but it makes a lot of calls to storage.googleapis.com. I wouldn't be surprised if it's making some PUT requests. https://github.com/googlecreativelab/teachable-machine/blob/...

I think the post above was referring to Apple, not Google. In the latter case, I think the claim is justified.
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