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Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

#41

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If that's the case, I think the bigger news then is that yahoo actually had 3B users!

Nobody ever said they are active users or unique individuals. I know for example I personally created hundreds of accounts on Yahoo! over the years.

Why make hundreds of accounts?

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

#42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody ever said they are active users or unique individuals. I know for example I personally created hundreds of accounts on Yahoo! over the years.

Hundreds? Are you sure?

I know a guy who uses a service that creates a unique email account for every service he signs up for. That way, he tells me, if he ever gets any spam, he can delete the account and it doesn't affect any of his other email accounts.

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

#43

I think the issue right now is that private user information is viewed as an asset, not a liability. If we could find a way to make it more of a liability, companies would be less likely to collect it just for the sake of having it, and they would be more proactive in securing it.

Alternatively, if it's truly an asset, can it be taxed as an asset? If I give a company a car, that is taxed. If I give a company my data which is worth more than a car, it isn't.

Is it possible that current accounting/tax law can be interpreted so that these are viewed similarly?

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

#44

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Hundreds? Are you sure?

I know a guy who uses a service that creates a unique email account for every service he signs up for. That way, he tells me, if he ever gets any spam, he can delete the account and it doesn't affect any of his other email accounts.

With gmail, you don't need it - foo+bar@gmail.com will end up as foo@gmail.com and you can filter by To: header.

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

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There never is a break-in where they get 1/3 or 1/2 of the accounts. It has to be nearly all or some much smaller faction. (my own presumption based on the idea nothing large does mere 2 to 3 way replication or partition)

It depends. It's possible a company could catch a breach while the data is being dumped to s3/russia/wherever and cut it off before everything is extracted. Another possibility is that only one particular system is breached, which wouldn't actually affect all users of a given company. If Facebook were hacked, it's possible that only the ad-buy system is compromised and not their entire user store, for example, thus e…

> Another possibility is that only one particular system is breached, which wouldn't actually affect all users of a given company

And a third possibility, especially given today's trend to distributed systems, is that the attacker gains access to one shard (or its dump) only.

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

#47

I feel a little sad that pay-walled articles make it to the top of HN. I'm sure the article is interesting, but a lot of us can't actually read it.

Here's a bookmarklet I use sometimes: javascript:window.location.href='https://m.facebook.com/l.php?u='+encodeURIComponent(window.location.href);

Real LPT in the comments!

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

#48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hundreds? Are you sure?

I know a guy who uses a service that creates a unique email account for every service he signs up for. That way, he tells me, if he ever gets any spam, he can delete the account and it doesn't affect any of his other email accounts.

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Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

#49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody ever said they are active users or unique individuals. I know for example I personally created hundreds of accounts on Yahoo! over the years.

Hundreds? Are you sure?

With gmail, you don't need it - foo+bar@gmail.com will end up as foo@gmail.com and you can filter by To: header.

I’m sure spammers have already figured that out.

Re: Yahoo Triples Estimate of Breached Accounts to 3B

#50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know a guy who uses a service that creates a unique email account for every service he signs up for. That way, he tells me, if he ever gets any spam, he can delete the account and it doesn't affect any of his other email accounts.

With gmail, you don't need it - foo+bar@gmail.com will end up as foo@gmail.com and you can filter by To: header.

Spammers will never find a way around this.
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