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Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player

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Re: Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player

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Post by jgrahamc »

bowersbros wrote: post #35
sbarre wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am curious if this means they will enable access controls on streams somehow. One of the challenges with video delivery and where sites like YouTube can't work is if your business relies on providing videos to paid or logged-in members only. Patreon creators get around this in a kludgy way by using unlisted YT videos (which can still be shared by rogue patrons) but that's not ideal. But if you want to control acces…

This is commonly solved using Amazon S3 and single-access tokens I think? Pretty hefty work involved in getting it reliable, would be nice for a "drop in" solution.

Cloudflare provides that already: https://blog.cloudflare.com/token-authentication-for-cached-...

Re: Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player

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Post by eugeneionesco »

thinkMOAR wrote: post #24
eugeneionesco wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I basically use Cloudflare for dns management, they make it so easy....

I use a ton of registrars, almost all have equal simple dns management as CF. Which requires a party less to use or leak traffic information to.

You don't leak any traffic information if you don't enable the proxy, which I don't.

I like the simple easy to use interface and the fact that all the domains that I manage are there, no need to login to multiple registrars.

Re: Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player

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Post by eugeneionesco »

_eht wrote: post #28
thinkMOAR wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use a ton of registrars, almost all have equal simple dns management as CF. Which requires a party less to use or leak traffic information to.

What is the turnaround time for DNS to propogate on all of those registrars? Are you forced into waiting for TTL's to expire? I may be wrong but I think eugeneionesco is referencing instant DNS changes which come as a benefit of using Cloudflare and other large DNS management companies. I've never personally seen a registrar offer anything like that.

Almost instant DNS change is something that I kinda take for granted. Surprising that's so rare...

Re: Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player

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Post by jermaustin1 »

nilved wrote: post #22
benbristow wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

They are monopolizing and centralizing the Web to the detriment of everyone. You don't need to believe me, though: the free and open Web is on a march toward death, Cloudflare is one of the nails in its coffin, and I will be happy enough to say "I told you so" once the grave is filled.

What can we do to stop it?

Re: Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player

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Post by sbarre »

edent wrote: post #31

I like this idea - but I worry about the cost. YouTube is, essentially, free. Even if I don't want to use them as a host, I can upload a video and a few minutes later download it in DASH and a variety of older formats - again, for free. If I do use them, I might get a few quid of advertising revenue. CloudFlare video lets me keep people on my site (damn those distracting cat videos) and possibly gives me a branded pl…

If you're not willing to pay for the video hosting and serving, you're not their target audience. YouTube was made for you.

Re: Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player

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Post by zzzcpan »

jerheinze wrote: post #19
occultist_throw wrote: post #6

Again.. More services that us Tor users are exempt from, lest we go into captcha hell. Edit: Seriously, -1's and an accusation of supporting pedophilia? I've certainly hit on a raw topic. And frankly, I'm not wrong regarding Captcha hell. We've had dozens of articles and threads about that very topic.

As a Tor user, there was a time when Cloudflare's captchas reduced drastically. And as long as you're using the Tor Browser, there's a great chance that you'll rarely see Cloudflare's captchas.

I saw a website recently that I couldn't load. Neither multiple different exit nodes through tor browser nor clean residential IP though chrome on linux worked and cloudflare's captcha was impossibly difficult to solve, I gave up after multiple attempts. Thankfully nice people here reposted the content into a comment.

Cloudflare still has a long way to go in terms of being nice to humans.

Re: Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player

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Post by bogomipz »

>"Why? Simply put: the video streaming market is screwed up. While there's a lot of money spent on video, there are only really about 1,000 customers that do any meaningful level of streaming."

So the statement that "the video streaming market is screwed up" is based on the fact that Cloudflare themselves only have 1K customers doing a meaningful level of streaming?

You might want to talk to Akami, Amazon, Edgecast and Fastly. I'm sure they will tell you the video streaming market is quite healthy.

Re: Cloudflare Stream – Combines video encoding, global delivery, and player

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Post by rocqua »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #40
brightfog wrote: post #36

This is so needed. A powerful Youtube alternative which can be setup by the mainstream.

The value in Youtube is that Google pays for it, not the mainstream.

The value of Youtube is the network of content consumers and producers that use it. The danger of Youtube is it's total monopoly on video discovery.

A system like this will make it easier to create Youtube competitors, so when youtube screws over a part of their producers / consumers they have somewhere viable to turn to.

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