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Sickness absence associated with shared and open-plan offices (2011)

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Re: Sickness absence associated with shared and open-plan offices (2011)

#41
I don't think it's about open-offices or not: Work environments just don't reflect work anymore.

There isn't any rational reason for knowledge workers to go to an office every day. Socializing and building a cult around a company might be the only reasons. But IDK if these are enough to justify an office.

There must be another solution we aren't aware of yet.

Re: Sickness absence associated with shared and open-plan offices (2011)

#42
post #34

It would be interesting, but perhaps not terribly useful, to see how sickness absence varies between contract and permanent staff. In the past, when contracting, I have dragged myself to work when feeling dreadful.

that's funny, at work (a large, well known & appreciated software company) contract workers take pride in coming to work at 11h+ or just not coming in unless really required

Re: Sickness absence associated with shared and open-plan offices (2011)

#43

I'm working full remote. My sickness absence is almost 0%, only a few days last year due to a flu.

I'm working in an open plan office. My sickness absence last year was zero. That's anecdotes for ya.

With N=2 and testing all variables we conclude that working does not make you sick and keeps you healthy.

Re: Sickness absence associated with shared and open-plan offices (2011)

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post #29

Root cause: bad sickness/time off/work from home policies.

I think this is a big part of it. I currently have 15 PTO days per year, which includes sick leave. If I'm feeling off, I'll ask if I can work from home, which I always get denied (which is odd, since I do after-hours maintenance and on-call incidents remotely).

So rather than piss away PTO, I dose up on drugs and drag my ass to the office. If I had dedicated sick leave, I'd just take the day off. But this miserly PTO policy results in me hoarding it.

Re: Sickness absence associated with shared and open-plan offices (2011)

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post #45
post #29

Root cause: bad sickness/time off/work from home policies.

I think this is a big part of it. I currently have 15 PTO days per year, which includes sick leave. If I'm feeling off, I'll ask if I can work from home, which I always get denied (which is odd, since I do after-hours maintenance and on-call incidents remotely). So rather than piss away PTO, I dose up on drugs and drag my ass to the office. If I had dedicated sick leave, I'd just take the day off. But this miserly PT…

What is PTO?

Re: Sickness absence associated with shared and open-plan offices (2011)

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post #24
post #2

The title makes it seem (to me) like they're finding that open plan offices reduce sickness. But they're not reporting on the absence of sickness, but rather absence due to sickness, which they found occurred at a higher rate in open offices.

Where are you from? I'm guessing that how you interpret the title might depend on your native language/dialect. Judging by the names of the authors, I'm guessing they're mostly Danish, or at least Scandinavian. As a native speaker of another Scandinavian language (Swedish), I understood the title as it was intended, but I'm not sure if the phrase "sickness absence" is the best way of expressing "absence due to sickne…

British English would use "Sick leave". But I also speak Norwegian so perhaps that explains why it seemed unremarkable until I saw the comment above.

Re: Sickness absence associated with shared and open-plan offices (2011)

#50

Noise, permanent distraction, regular interruption, no privacy, and people spreading germs all over the place. No wonder that people get sick! I would rather be poor than work in a shared office one more time. (I have experienced both, so I know what I'm talking about.)

And higher stress levels from working in open offices.

Especially the noise is wearing me down.
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