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Saudi Arabia Agrees to Let Women Drive

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Re: Saudi Arabia Agrees to Let Women Drive

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post #29

But do they have to be accompanied on that drive by a male relative?

It's pretty messed up how this mirrors similar questions that come up when discussing autonomous vehicles- While we in the West try to come to grips with the agency of computer systems, other places are still trying to come to grips with agency for adult humans.

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Re: Saudi Arabia Agrees to Let Women Drive

#45
post #34

> One cleric claimed — with no evidence — that driving harmed women’s ovaries. Wait. What?

I know it's oh so tempting, but please don't post unsubstantive comments to HN about stupid shit—especially not on inflammatory topics. There's no surer way to degrade an internet discussion, and we're trying for better than that here (trying and failing, no doubt, but we can always fail better). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you. My apologies.

Re: Saudi Arabia Agrees to Let Women Drive

#47
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I know it's oh so tempting, but please don't post unsubstantive comments to HN about stupid shit—especially not on inflammatory topics. There's no surer way to degrade an internet discussion, and we're trying for better than that here (trying and failing, no doubt, but we can always fail better). https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Sorry, didn't mean to offend you. My apologies.

Not at all, you're so far from having offended me that I'm sorry for having left you with that impression!

But we can see from this subthread how quickly these comments grow like weeds and choke out more thoughtful conversation. It's not the starting comment itself, but what it precipitates, that we all need to guard against.

Re: Saudi Arabia Agrees to Let Women Drive

#48
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

denial of liberty is expensive.

And renewables/EVs are just getting started. It will be interesting to see what other freedoms Saudis will allow once EVs and renewables are a significant portion of the global market.

Perhaps freedoms will be taken by force by the Saudi citizens... when the petrol money runs out, the economic situation will worsen while the ability of the ruling elite to use money to keep the regime's stability will be greatly reduced. Looks like Prince Mohammed bin Salman understands this, and that is why he's trying to reduce his country's reliance on petrol money.

Re: Saudi Arabia Agrees to Let Women Drive

#49

The use of "Agrees" in the headline reveals societal bias. "Decides" would have been better.

Well, I believe that they were the last country in the world to prohibit it, so even if you look at it from a societal bias perspective, Saudi Arabia's policy is now in agreement with everyone else.
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