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SEO Company CEO Contracts Murderers to Kill Competition, Client Exposes All

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digital snake-oil, idiots will always fall for it.

well, sometimes it's even a more or less sophisticated scam (blaming it on idiots is too short sighted) a simple blueprint of the most common seo scam: 1) sell them something external that does not create additional work for the client and assign value to it i.e.: links, linkbuilding services, tools, ... 2) disable feedack loops (it takes x month until you see an impact, introduce "magic numbers" seo tools) 3) wait &…

Except some of those things are legit. It can in fact take multiple months to see real movement in the SERPs. Value is added by fixing tagging and such.

There are a lot of snake oil salesmen just like in and industry, but some of these things don't belong on that list.

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Coming from a post-Soviet period, I am surprised a bit that this doesn't happen more often. Company owners would be killed seemingly without much worry if they crossed anyone powerful. I was doing homework one night and felt the house shake, I thought it was an earthquake. It turns out a bomb went off in a 5 story apartment building nearby. Someone was trying to kill a banker so they left a bomb by their door.

Yes, I'm surprised how celebrities and CEOs of big corporations live so long... In spite of the bodyguards. It's hard to appreciate the sheer number of people that exist in the world... Surely there are enough crazy people to populate an entire city. Is it possible that intelligence is inversely correlated with insanity? I thought it was the opposite.

There's only about 8k people who are 1 in 1k crazy and 1 in 1k capable, assuming independent traits.

If you restrict that to even 1 in 20 violent, then you're talking 400 people world wide.

Factor out kids, elderly, etc and you're talking 200 really scary motherfuckers. Figure 75% are employed by governments, and you're talking 50 rogue badasses -- which seems vaguely in line with the number of really dangerous terrorists, paramilitaries, etc.

My guess is that the number of people that are both interested and capable of the things you propose are busy making tons of cash on drugs, terrorist violence elsewhere, etc.

Re: SEO Company CEO Contracts Murderers to Kill Competition, Client Exposes All

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digital snake-oil, idiots will always fall for it.

Don't confuse idiocy and being non-technical. SEO's confusing enough to many of us, let alone someone who's running a little family diner or something.

I think the point is that search-engine optimisation itself is a farce, perpetuated by confidence tricksters—some “SEO experts” do not know that they are conning people, charging people for useless reports, yesterday’s advice and for services that clients could just as easily handle themselves.

Obviously no offence should be intended towards victims of SEO cons, but the fact is that it’s a con, and that’s probably why it seems confusing to people without technical knowledge. I have been a web developer for nearly a decade and I still struggle to understand what value an SEO expert/agency is supposed to add.

Anyone honest in the field will say that if your website loads reasonably quickly, works on mobile phones and desktop, and comprises useful, quality, regularly-added content—pertinent to things that people actually search for—your website is more or less optimised for search and the rest requires time for search engines to crawl your website and for people to search for it, talk about it, etc.

This is the sort of thing that necessitates a good web developer/team and a good writer, and maybe someone to manage social media and press and stuff like that. You don’t need to pay money for some “SEO experts” to give you outdated advice and charge you monthly to provide automatically generated reports from services you could use yourself, for less money, and which provide almost pointless “ranking” measurements.

SEO activities of any value include reaching out to high-traffic, trustworthy websites to feature your site (this is PR) and to log into Google Webmaster Tools/Search Console to disavow any “spammy” links to your site (this is something anyone could do).

Re: SEO Company CEO Contracts Murderers to Kill Competition, Client Exposes All

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Yes, I'm surprised how celebrities and CEOs of big corporations live so long... In spite of the bodyguards. It's hard to appreciate the sheer number of people that exist in the world... Surely there are enough crazy people to populate an entire city. Is it possible that intelligence is inversely correlated with insanity? I thought it was the opposite.

There's only about 8k people who are 1 in 1k crazy and 1 in 1k capable, assuming independent traits. If you restrict that to even 1 in 20 violent, then you're talking 400 people world wide. Factor out kids, elderly, etc and you're talking 200 really scary motherfuckers. Figure 75% are employed by governments, and you're talking 50 rogue badasses -- which seems vaguely in line with the number of really dangerous terro…

I got roughly 379 people, using current world population (http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/) and not including your last step of factoring out kids and elderly, because that should have been done in the (1 in 1k capable) step.

Re: SEO Company CEO Contracts Murderers to Kill Competition, Client Exposes All

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post #44

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Don't confuse idiocy and being non-technical. SEO's confusing enough to many of us, let alone someone who's running a little family diner or something.

I think the point is that search-engine optimisation itself is a farce, perpetuated by confidence tricksters—some “SEO experts” do not know that they are conning people, charging people for useless reports, yesterday’s advice and for services that clients could just as easily handle themselves. Obviously no offence should be intended towards victims of SEO cons, but the fact is that it’s a con, and that’s probably wh…

When I think of SEO, I think of doing a lot of the work you just described. Performance optimization, responsiveness, and especially content are things that SEOs advise on or even do the work directly. You even mention SEO activities of value such as reaching out to trustworthy sites for promotion, or using webmaster tools. These are the exact things that SEOs do - either you've had a bad experience or you're just misinformed. And to say that anyone could do this for stuff is moot - anyone can do anything if they have the time to learn and desire to do it. Most clients have neither when it comes to SEO.

Re: SEO Company CEO Contracts Murderers to Kill Competition, Client Exposes All

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, I'm surprised how celebrities and CEOs of big corporations live so long... In spite of the bodyguards. It's hard to appreciate the sheer number of people that exist in the world... Surely there are enough crazy people to populate an entire city. Is it possible that intelligence is inversely correlated with insanity? I thought it was the opposite.

There's only about 8k people who are 1 in 1k crazy and 1 in 1k capable, assuming independent traits. If you restrict that to even 1 in 20 violent, then you're talking 400 people world wide. Factor out kids, elderly, etc and you're talking 200 really scary motherfuckers. Figure 75% are employed by governments, and you're talking 50 rogue badasses -- which seems vaguely in line with the number of really dangerous terro…

Can you explain how you came up with these numbers? Intuitively I have always thought they were low, due to the small incidence of terrorist attacks, but I am curious to where you come up with your base numbers.

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Out of curiosity, why didn't you report these facts to the authorities? Fear of wasting time, or of retaliation, or something else?

Not everyone is rich.

You don't need money to report to authorities, only to battle over in court.

Re: SEO Company CEO Contracts Murderers to Kill Competition, Client Exposes All

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So the government caught this guy in a Sting. What would even motivate such an operation? I have heard of Traps being laid out for potential pedophiles, drug addicts etc. Buy why would they go after this kind of criminal preemptively?

FTA: "The investigation revealed that PHILLIPS engaged another individual, who has since become a cooperating defendant (“CD-1”), to commit a murder of an identified victim (“Victim-1”)"

As I read it, the potential hitman became a defendant after Phillips attempted to hire him. The potential hitman wasn't LE or on LE's side before that.

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