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Western fast food companies are aggressively expanding in Brazil

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Re: Western fast food companies are aggressively expanding in Brazil

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Post by mercer »

lerax wrote: post #25
flachsechs wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

don't forget the caipirinha, usually a double or triple shot of sugarcane rum mixed with sugar syrup and fruit juice (more sugar)... sometimes served with granulated cane sugar on the rim of the glass. needless to say, it gets you hammered in a hurry. or the local beer... honestly i think the healthiest restaurant food i saw in brazil was the appetizer salad bar at the churrascaria, which is of course the kind of pla…

Oh man... so much (wrong) bias about Brazil :/

What's the point of a statement like that if you don't elaborate?

Re: Western fast food companies are aggressively expanding in Brazil

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Post by hellofunk »

This makes me sad for Brazil.

I have heard, though cannot confirm myself, that Japan had one of the healthiest societies in the world until fast food expanded there a couple decades ago, causing many problems common in the States, like obesity and diabetes and blood pressure issues, to significantly increase in frequency there.

Re: Western fast food companies are aggressively expanding in Brazil

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Post by hellofunk »

Animats wrote: post #26

Japan seems to have fought this off. Japan has explicitly rejected "fat acceptance" as public policy. Under the 2008 "Metabo Law", everyone between 40 and 75 is weighed and measured annually and sent to counseling if overweight. Employers are involved and apply pressure to employees.

If Japan does this, it is in reaction to what the influence of Western fast food did in the previous decades, to make this necessary.

Re: Western fast food companies are aggressively expanding in Brazil

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Post by hellofunk »

lerax wrote: post #22
pkaye wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is in a typical Brazilian breakfast in you opinion?

BTW, the main Brazilian meal is usually lunch.

Which is actually healthier than the American perspective of having dinner be the main/largest meal.

Re: Western fast food companies are aggressively expanding in Brazil

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Post by gcb0 »

they claim that a universal income (bolsa familia) is responsible for poor people buying tons of sugary foods. in reality that universal income allows poor people to not starve. why do they buy crap food? because that's what middle class is also eating. why? because of recently unregulated and rampant advertising.

Re: Western fast food companies are aggressively expanding in Brazil

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Post by candiodari »

ljf wrote: post #40
candiodari wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fruit juice is pretty bad on the calories regardless of added sugar or not. I mean, the sugar doesn't help, and has other bad effects (teeth, most notably). But the issue with fruit juice is just how much fruit you need to make it. One glass of apple juice is 3-4 apples. An apple is 60-80 calories. That makes that glass about 300 calories, which is ridiculous. It's a bit less bad with orange juice, although like lemo…

Having a 300 calorie drink is of no issue if you have a long walk to school where you are physically active, to your manual job or your day spent looking after your family and manually cleaning and managing your home. 2000 calories is the recommended level for sedentary westerners.

Well, my issue with fruit juice is that one or even two aren't enough to not feel thirsty anymore. And any walk that takes 600-900 calories to get to my job is not one I'll actually take on a regular basis.

A good estimate is 30-50 calories per kilometer, so a single glass of juice requires, let's say, a 5 kilometer walk to compensate.

I'm a mostly sedentary westerner, but I don't think I've eaten 2000 calories in a single day for a year at least.

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Post by adventured »

candiodari wrote: post #27
Animats wrote: post #26

Japan seems to have fought this off. Japan has explicitly rejected "fat acceptance" as public policy. Under the 2008 "Metabo Law", everyone between 40 and 75 is weighed and measured annually and sent to counseling if overweight. Employers are involved and apply pressure to employees.

> Employers are involved and apply pressure to employees. That sounds like hell.

It is hell, for someone not used to it or someone over the fat line. Google "Japan fat shaming" for some idea of how abusive they are toward fat people culturally. They're not the only ones though, South Korea and China also have weaker variations of aggressive cultural fat shaming.

Re: Western fast food companies are aggressively expanding in Brazil

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Post by ucaetano »

I find the title of this link quite funny: Brazil is a western country, even more "west" than Switzerland, where Nestle is from, and with very similar culture to that of Western Europe and the US.

Not only that, but Nestle has been in Brazil for almost a century now.

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