I'm more worried about Trump escalating than Kim.
North Korea fires missile over Japan
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#42Many people are blaming China for the whole NK situation for their "support" and asking for a regime change.
What do you propose that China can do after the regime change?
Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and great examples that you cannot just throw away a dictatorship. What follows is practically a game of thrones of powers in the region which is a lose-lose situation for everyone, specially people of the "free'd" country and the neighbors.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't think you have any idea how many pieces of artillery they have, nor how many tunnels there are going beneath the DMZ. They are ready to cause as much destruction and chaos as their 1950s era arsenal can inflict. It would take thousands of cruise missiles to even dent their defenses. You can't use bombers until the anti-aircraft systems are down. It's going to take hours to finish the job, and even then who kn…
I suspect that the US has had the capability to disable ICBMs for some time now. (See patriot missile system and iron dome and remember Regan's star wars project and its not a big leap to make) I think it's just a matter that we don't want to let would be nuclear assailants know until they have already committed.
Yes, it's called the THAAD and it has been recently deployed in SK after a long debate.
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#44Many people are blaming China for the whole NK situation for their "support" and asking for a regime change. What do you propose that China can do after the regime change? Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and great examples that you cannot just throw away a dictatorship. What follows is practically a game of thrones of powers in the region which is a lose-lose situation for everyone, specially people of the "free'd" count…
> Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya
I think it's wrong to compare North Korea to those countries. For one, the post-regime change problems in those countries have been caused by Islamic insurgencies, which is not something I'd expect to happen in NK.
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#45Many people are blaming China for the whole NK situation for their "support" and asking for a regime change. What do you propose that China can do after the regime change? Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and great examples that you cannot just throw away a dictatorship. What follows is practically a game of thrones of powers in the region which is a lose-lose situation for everyone, specially people of the "free'd" count…
And recall, you're playing Game of Thrones with nuclear material, so there will likely be no winning that.
Best case would likely be China just annexing the whole country and imposing martial law for the next ~30 years. At least people would be more likely to get fed, and the nukes would be safe-ish.
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#46Many people are blaming China for the whole NK situation for their "support" and asking for a regime change. What do you propose that China can do after the regime change? Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya and great examples that you cannot just throw away a dictatorship. What follows is practically a game of thrones of powers in the region which is a lose-lose situation for everyone, specially people of the "free'd" count…
First of all, if there's a regime change towards democracy, there's no business with China. South Korea will liberate and take care of their emasculated, starved, brutalized relatives in North Korea. Not China, the one that's been supporting the brutalization of all of the people in North Korea.
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#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I suspect that the US has had the capability to disable ICBMs for some time now. (See patriot missile system and iron dome and remember Regan's star wars project and its not a big leap to make) I think it's just a matter that we don't want to let would be nuclear assailants know until they have already committed.
"Mister President, there's been a launch. There's six missiles heading for California and Washington state." "Not now, I'm busy." "Put down the phone, Sir. This is isn't a drill."
He is afraid he has to answer to the Coca Cola company.
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#48Kim in the North: winter's coming!
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Where do we go from here? To the very brink, at least if Trump is left to his own (mobile) devices. My guess is he will reroute a CBG or two towards the Korean peninsula and make a lot of bluster about whatever new line he is prepared to draw. Meanwhile, everyone else works frantically on a backchannel plan that allows both Kim and Trump to save some face. I don't see how this happens unless brokered by China, who em…
We get the leaders of Japan, China and South Korea together on a conference call and all agree not to start World War 3 when China decides to push through some "regime change." Why would China do this? Because North Korea is useful to them as a buffer state and a proxy to aggravate the West, but only so long as they can be controlled. Once they pose a real threat to their neighbors, they also pose a real threat to Ch…
The problem with that plan is that China has only marginally more control over Kim than we do. He's a rogue from their perspective too, and their ability to effect a "regime change" is limited by the same "don't poke the nuclear nutjob" problem we have.
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#50First thing on the BBC article: > No effort was made by the Japanese to shoot down the missile, which was launched early in the morning local time, triggering safety warnings. Isn't that odd? Why mention this up front? Why not shoot this down given the warnings to the public indicated it was serious and a threat to life? What tech do Japan use to shoot these down? Is it the same as the Yanks? What happens the moment…
Seems like you'd be revealing capabilities. That said if I were making decisions in Japan I'd give serious thought to just sending a missile over North Korea into the Yellow Sea.