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Re: Trying to corner the market on legal marijuana

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Post by malka »

seattle_spring wrote: post #37
rangibaby wrote: post #26

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Even the easiest homebrewing requires more knowledge and skill than dumping some seeds in your garden, which is literally all you need to do to get an acceptable crop of weed

Acceptable certainly is relative. If you just "dumped some seeds in your garden", you would get seedy, low-grade crap weed, regardless of what strain you planted. Good weed requires proper attention and care.

Wont kill them or blind them. Will get them High. Wont taste that good.bad weed is More acceptable than Bad alcohol

Re: Trying to corner the market on legal marijuana

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Post by te_chris »

ringaroundthetx wrote: post #33
scaryspooky wrote: post #31

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Ah, socialism. Who wants a non-totalitarian state when you can just enslave the people like all the utopian socialist societies. Oh, are we just being hyperbolic? A capitalist would say a socialist is wrong and this is cronyism. A socialist would say capitalism is wrong and this is cronyism.

man, 'socialist' really has a branding problem Guess the european nations are going to simply need a new word in order to stop being conflated with North Korea, and former european nations

Only if you're American and, honestly, after the shit the American electorate just pulled by electing Trump, you're on your own sorting this shit out. Come back to the world when you've worked out how to behave and not elect dangerous morons.

Re: Trying to corner the market on legal marijuana

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Post by smcl »

ringaroundthetx wrote: post #33
scaryspooky wrote: post #31

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Ah, socialism. Who wants a non-totalitarian state when you can just enslave the people like all the utopian socialist societies. Oh, are we just being hyperbolic? A capitalist would say a socialist is wrong and this is cronyism. A socialist would say capitalism is wrong and this is cronyism.

man, 'socialist' really has a branding problem Guess the european nations are going to simply need a new word in order to stop being conflated with North Korea, and former european nations

I thought it's more of a dirty word over in the USA, and in Western + Northern Europe we're generally fine with it. The UK's head of the opposition (Jeremy Corbyn) is a self-described socialist and massively ate into the majority the Conservative party had in the last election. Germany, France and the nordic countries are pretty ok with the word and I know Portugal is the same too. These are just the ones I can speak of, the remainder I'd presume to be not too different.

It's more of an issue in former warsaw pact countries who overthrew a "socialist" government in the late 80s however. I know among my group of friends I'd get eye-rolls and chuckles if I described myself as a socialist

Re: Trying to corner the market on legal marijuana

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Post by Nursie »

ringaroundthetx wrote: post #33
scaryspooky wrote: post #31

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Ah, socialism. Who wants a non-totalitarian state when you can just enslave the people like all the utopian socialist societies. Oh, are we just being hyperbolic? A capitalist would say a socialist is wrong and this is cronyism. A socialist would say capitalism is wrong and this is cronyism.

man, 'socialist' really has a branding problem Guess the european nations are going to simply need a new word in order to stop being conflated with North Korea, and former european nations

I don't think many of the European nations woukd agree they are socialist, most see themselves trying to balance socialism and capitalism to gain the greatest benefit for all.

How successful their efforts have been is up to the individual to judge.

You are right that it's not as much of a dirty word here.

Re: Trying to corner the market on legal marijuana

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Post by etplayer »

scaryspooky wrote: post #31
etplayer wrote: post #7

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Ah, capitalism. Who wants the free association of individual producers as labourers when you can have wage labour and the cycle of capital crisis in a commodity economy backed up by the State acting on behalf of the property owners for the benefit of the rich to the detriment of the poor as Adam Smith noted even in the 18th century? The free market was so called because it is free from control of its participants :)…

Ah, socialism. Who wants a non-totalitarian state when you can just enslave the people like all the utopian socialist societies. Oh, are we just being hyperbolic? A capitalist would say a socialist is wrong and this is cronyism. A socialist would say capitalism is wrong and this is cronyism.

I don't wish to excuse past totalitarian states, but the Communist hypothesis as Badiou writes is much broader than totalitarian forms of government; it is the job of modern day Marxists to consider why it happens and how to prevent it.

I have nothing against free trade, I am opposed to the idea that capitalism promotes a 'free' society. Although there are market Socialists, I am not one of them, because I do no think that it goes far enough to eliminate the law of Value which stands in the way of emancipation of the labourer from capital.

Re: Trying to corner the market on legal marijuana

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Post by tpm »

ringaroundthetx wrote: post #33
scaryspooky wrote: post #31

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Ah, socialism. Who wants a non-totalitarian state when you can just enslave the people like all the utopian socialist societies. Oh, are we just being hyperbolic? A capitalist would say a socialist is wrong and this is cronyism. A socialist would say capitalism is wrong and this is cronyism.

man, 'socialist' really has a branding problem Guess the european nations are going to simply need a new word in order to stop being conflated with North Korea, and former european nations

Socialism does not mean redistribution. There are currently no socialist countries in Europe, if we take the definition of socialism as social ownership and democratic control of the means of production. Some socialist policies are implemented in some sectors of the economy and society in some countries, but there is no country in Europe where this is true for large enough parts of the economy.

Re: Trying to corner the market on legal marijuana

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Post by atupis »

rangibaby wrote: post #26
grecy wrote: post #17

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It's also extremely simple to produce enough alcohol for your entire neighborhood in your basement with a home-made still. That has not stopped the monetization of alcohol... People who want to make billions from this will simply lobby until there are extremely strict laws in place to protect their profits, and then also lobby to make sure there are wars and extremely strict punishments for violators of those laws.

Even the easiest homebrewing requires more knowledge and skill than dumping some seeds in your garden, which is literally all you need to do to get an acceptable crop of weed

Really http://allrecipes.com/recipe/58561/homemade-wine/

Re: Trying to corner the market on legal marijuana

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Post by [deleted] »

code_duck wrote: post #34
Taek wrote: post #16

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Legal marijuana will push out illegal marijuana. Large, industrial farms will outcompete anyone who is growing illegally. And that is going to make it much easier to regulate. Patents have the potential to pick the winners in this industry if they are handed out irresponsibily.

Currently, the black market can provide cannabis in colorado, california or oregon for about half the price of the legal market (and generally, if you wanted half a lb to stock up for personal use, you can't just go buy it at a store anyway). Part of the lower price is due to competition from legal sources, part due to not paying taxes. Personally, I would rather grow it at home exactly like tomatoes, if it's herb. M…

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