I don't like the product placement in the release name.
I think this is not the first time...
Android Oreo
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Re: Android Oreo
#42Project Treble is the most important thing in this release >The biggest change to the foundations of Android to date: a modular architecture that makes it easier and faster for hardware makers to deliver Android updates. With any luck, this will end the huge security/update problem Android has. Right now an update is dependent on the chip manufacturer's drivers, then the OEM adding them to the ROM with their custom "…
I'm cautiously optimistic about Treble. I welcome userland updates not being subject to device/soc manufacturers whims, but wonder if this means devices will see kernel updates even less frequently than they already do.
Then again, this new architecture likely makes it easier to move the Android userland to a new (non-linux) kernel, so maybe it'll be a moot point.
Re: Android Oreo
#43Why on earth did they go with a restricted trademark, Oreo? Oreo must have payed a good sum of money I suppose? Coming up with the legalese on how and where Google is allowed to use the Oreo trademark seems difficult.
Does INTERCONTINENTAL GREAT BRANDS LLC have a trademark for Oreo in the "computer and scientific" or telecommunications categories?
If not, then there is no trademark issue. Google isn't selling a food, it's selling an operating system.
Re: Android Oreo
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it supports prior services like Google cloud print, perhaps even uncertified printers could work
Cloud print has been supported since KitKat, you just need to install the driver (sorry, "print plugin"): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.and...
Yeah, I meant the printer, not the phone/tablet.
Re: Android Oreo
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Or even if just gets the chip manufacturers out of the equation, that alone fixes most of the problems. The OEM side is usually pretty easy / trivial in comparison. And there are a number of OEMs who would happily push updates but can't, because they can't get hardware packages from Qualcomm / Amlogic / Freescale / etc. That, more than anything else, holds back new Android releases on lots of hardware.
Supposedly the carriers are real pains as well. I've heard horror stories of months-long approvals processes on Verizon and AT&T ROMs. It's a game I wish they'd get out of entirely. There's no such thing as a useful carrier overlay.
> I've heard horror stories of months-long approvals processes on Verizon and AT&T ROMs.
Six months and counting, waiting for Verizon to approve the Nougat update on my HTC One M9. It has literally hit everyone else:
[0]http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/12/09/unlocked-htc-one-m9-...
[1]http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/02/23/android-7-0-nougat-o...
[2]http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/03/21/t-mobile-variant-htc...
[3]http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/04/12/htc-one-m9-sprint-ge...
[4]http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/05/16/atts-htc-one-m9-upda...
Re: Android Oreo
#46I don't like the product placement in the release name.
If by "product placement" you mean that Nabisco paid Google for this, I doubt that is the case. If anything, the money would have gone the other way.
Re: Android Oreo
#47A non-generic brand name for their O-release? Did they strike a deal with Nabisco/Cadbury? I can't imagine Google doing this without some form of legal go-ahead from the trademark owner.
In case of 4.4 KitKat it was the idea of Nestle's advertising agency, J. Walter Thompson [0]. It was novel at the time, and it as more than just jumping on the letter "K", because it tied the "have a break, have a kitkat" line with the idea that people reach for their smartphones when they have a break. Now I imagine it's just people in suits negotiating the deal for the next release name. [0] https://jwt.co.uk/work/…
I think you're overselling JWT's involvement. That link just says that the brokered the deal, not that it was their idea.
All the stories I've heard[1] say the idea came from Google as Hiroshi Lockheimer (now head of Android & Chrome OS) was a big fan of KitKats.
1: https://www.theverge.com/2013/9/3/4691040/android-kitkat-the...
Re: Android Oreo
#48Finally Android will stop Facebook apps from sucking my RAM secretly!
I've found a fantastic solution that works on any phone! Uninstall facebook and facebook messenger. Then use Chrome and facebook's mobile site. Life changer, man.
Re: Android Oreo
#49Why on earth did they go with a restricted trademark, Oreo? Oreo must have payed a good sum of money I suppose? Coming up with the legalese on how and where Google is allowed to use the Oreo trademark seems difficult.
Google is an advertising company that sells ad space on their own pages. This is probably just an extension - put your brand's name on an open-source project, similar to putting your brand's name on a sportsball stadium.
Re: Android Oreo
#50"new emoji" is an OS-level feature now. Welcome to 2017.
Well, there was a lot of distaste for the previous style, it's a pretty notable difference to users. (For the record, I liked the original "blobs" and will miss them.)