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Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

And how do you know that that the Bitcoin mixer you decided to use is not actually operated by the FBI and that they are actually keeping a private log tying bitcoins in with bitcoins out?

Had similar questions yesterday and some hackers responded here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15016338

That doesn't seem to address hostile mixers? Running dark-net bazaars, bitcoin mixers and "hacker"(cracker) forums seems like trivial intel basics. Just like running "anonymous" [ed:remailers,[1]] and tor nodes.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixmaster_anonymous_remailer

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

#43
post #6

Can I pay for ProtonVPN in coin as well?

I would use OVPN. It supports bitcoin [0].

You can check quite recent truly and honestly made (!) comparison of VPNs here: https://vpnreport.org/

Disclaimer: There are no affiliate links in this comment.

(!) not shown within first 10 google results among the usual crap for 'best xxx services'

[0] https://www.ovpn.com/en/blog/complete-guide-for-using-bitcoi...

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

#44
post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

> google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy What made you feel this way, specifically, in the memo?

*perfect use of the feel word.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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Bitcoin is not anonymous.

If you're very concerned, you could use a high speed/volume BitCoin Mixer[1]. For example, if it currently has sufficient volume, something on the Darknet like BitBlender[2][3]. There are a number of different mixers out there. You could also, of course, wash the BitCoins by hand yourself. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_mixer [2] https://bitblender.io/ [3] http://bitblendervrfkzr.onion/

No this is the incorrect answer. Mixers congest the network and cause many unneeded fees and they are NOT future proof and do NOT deliver suddenly-fungible bitcoins at the other end.

Use Monero, not ZCash, not DASH with a special type of transaction, use MONERO with genuine ring confidential transactions.

RingCT - https://lab.getmonero.org/pubs/MRL-0005.pdf

Monero vs ZCash vs Mixers - https://moneroforcash.com/monero-vs-dash-vs-zcash-vs-bitcoin...

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

#46
post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

I've been using migadu.com for a while (nice reliable email hosting for 4$/mo). They even have a nice drawbacks page: https://www.migadu.com/en/drawbacks.html

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

#47
post #29
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you want to mask your identity wouldn't you be better off buying Visa gift cards with cash at a major store and then using them to purchase services online?

Or using a coin designed to be anonymous and private, like.. Monero. You would still probably be on camera buying a Visa gift card in a retail store. With timestamp.

This is the correct answer.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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post #34

I'm thinking of switching my business email to protonmail from gmail. Any users like it ? The whole google memo revealed google employees are not as trustworthy as I thought. All the social media talk of blacklists, and inquisition tactics from some of upper management is bad for business. I've already gotten emails from clients asking me to change their business google services to something else (anything else in th…

I just set it up for my custom domain and it could not have been any simpler or easier. They have a really clean UI/status checks for setting up MX/SPF/DKIM/DMARC, I setup some custom addresses and a catch-all and it all just worked.

How is their catchall support?

Last I checked into the status, they only planned to support it for business accounts and limited sending to only a few aliases.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

#49
post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you're very concerned, you could use a high speed/volume BitCoin Mixer[1]. For example, if it currently has sufficient volume, something on the Darknet like BitBlender[2][3]. There are a number of different mixers out there. You could also, of course, wash the BitCoins by hand yourself. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin_mixer [2] https://bitblender.io/ [3] http://bitblendervrfkzr.onion/

No this is the incorrect answer. Mixers congest the network and cause many unneeded fees and they are NOT future proof and do NOT deliver suddenly-fungible bitcoins at the other end. Use Monero, not ZCash, not DASH with a special type of transaction, use MONERO with genuine ring confidential transactions. RingCT - https://lab.getmonero.org/pubs/MRL-0005.pdf Monero vs ZCash vs Mixers - https://moneroforcash.com/monero…

We will hopefully support ZCash in the future. But, unfortunately, we don't right now. I am a member of the ZCash forum, though. I have been keeping a close watch on the project/coin and am very impressed with it. I don't know anything about Monero. I either hadn't heard of it before or just didn't give it any attention after seeing it because of the flood of coins lately. Thanks for the pointer and endorsement of it - I will take a look at it when I have a chance.

Re: ProtonMail Now Supports Bitcoin Payments

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post #33
post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you couldn't just use a CC or some other form of payment? Seriously?

I expect that's not the point he was trying to make. I believe he/she was stating their surprise that bitcoin was not a payment option back then. "Seriously."

No the point is it stopped him from using/trying the service. If he really was interested he would've found an alternative payment solution
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