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Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

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Re: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

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Bullshit. I was born in communist Czechoslovakia. It is like celebrating North Korea, because their army has 30% women. Sex was one of a few available entertainment options. It was difficult to get basic hygiene products (tampons, toilet paper).

They're not "celebrating" it, unless you seriously think the NY Times have suddenly decided communism on any shape or form is great. They are just not pretending that no joy was possible, or that there were no positive aspects at all, and not insisting on ignoring the few positive aspects. E.g. it is a matter of fact that a lot of legislation relating to women's rights have been rolled back in many of these countries…

I think I am reading different NY Times. They never wrote how communist goverment in Romania banned anticonception, abortions etc... But maybe that makes sex more exiciting :(

And please educate me what women's rights post-communist goverments took away.

Re: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

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post #34

Bullshit. I was born in communist Czechoslovakia. It is like celebrating North Korea, because their army has 30% women. Sex was one of a few available entertainment options. It was difficult to get basic hygiene products (tampons, toilet paper).

They're not "celebrating" it, unless you seriously think the NY Times have suddenly decided communism on any shape or form is great. They are just not pretending that no joy was possible, or that there were no positive aspects at all, and not insisting on ignoring the few positive aspects. E.g. it is a matter of fact that a lot of legislation relating to women's rights have been rolled back in many of these countries…

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Re: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not "celebrating" it, unless you seriously think the NY Times have suddenly decided communism on any shape or form is great. They are just not pretending that no joy was possible, or that there were no positive aspects at all, and not insisting on ignoring the few positive aspects. E.g. it is a matter of fact that a lot of legislation relating to women's rights have been rolled back in many of these countries…

I think I am reading different NY Times. They never wrote how communist goverment in Romania banned anticonception, abortions etc... But maybe that makes sex more exiciting :( And please educate me what women's rights post-communist goverments took away.

Why don't you read the article.

Re: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

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post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They're not "celebrating" it, unless you seriously think the NY Times have suddenly decided communism on any shape or form is great. They are just not pretending that no joy was possible, or that there were no positive aspects at all, and not insisting on ignoring the few positive aspects. E.g. it is a matter of fact that a lot of legislation relating to women's rights have been rolled back in many of these countries…

I think I am reading different NY Times. They never wrote how communist goverment in Romania banned anticonception, abortions etc... But maybe that makes sex more exiciting :( And please educate me what women's rights post-communist goverments took away.

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/11/21/world/romania-s-communist-...

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/03/25/world/romanian-orphans-pri...

Re: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

#46

Why do we have more socialists in other countries than in (former) socialist states?

Do we?

In Germany, Linke (Left), is by far strongest in the former DDR, and it came out of PDS, which again was the successor to SED - the ruling party of DDR.

It has merged with some other groups, and appears fairly thoroughly "reformed" to the extent that they're too centrist for many socialists, but the imbalance between its support in the East and West remains.

It varies a lot by country, seemingly both coming down to the level of oppression in the different countries, but also things like their propaganda, and to what extent their ideology was presented in a way that their populations had the background to recognise how different their actual polices were vs. their supposed theoretical foundations (e.g. teaching Marx to someone using full source texts if you want to maintain an authoritarian regime is not a particularly bright plan, but the extent of careful quoting and ordering and explaining away and indoctrination varied greatly)

Re: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

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Why do we have more socialists in other countries than in (former) socialist states?

Experience is a good teacher. Dalrymple remarked on this in _Utopias Elsewhere_ -- how it sometimes seems that every society has to learn that Communism won't work the hard way.

Re: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

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Bulgaria was never a communist state, and categorizing it as such is a gross misrepresentation. It was ally to communist states, yes, but the socialism in Bulgaria was far communism.

Sorry, are you saying that the People's Republic of Bulgaria was not run by Bulgarian Communist Party? Or are you saying that there wasn't a People's Republic of Bulgaria or that the Bulgarian Communist Party wasn't communist? Or something else?

There are states in India governed by Communist Parties where the people/society are not following a communist structure

Re: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

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In East Germany before the unification, lifestyles were more traditional. Moreover, there were incentives to start a family early in life. Perhaps most importantly, young families would get priority treatment when applying for newly-built apartments. Therefore people got married in their early 20s, and moved into their new flat, away from parents, as soon as possible, and had the sex life young married couples normally have.

Re: Why Women Had Better Sex Under Socialism

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post #46

Why do we have more socialists in other countries than in (former) socialist states?

Do we? In Germany, Linke (Left), is by far strongest in the former DDR, and it came out of PDS, which again was the successor to SED - the ruling party of DDR. It has merged with some other groups, and appears fairly thoroughly "reformed" to the extent that they're too centrist for many socialists, but the imbalance between its support in the East and West remains. It varies a lot by country, seemingly both coming do…

Linke, or DDR, is now fabian (democratic) socialism.
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