California Court Orders Vinod Khosla to Reopen Disputed Beach

Post by jacquesm » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 10:35 AM UTC

ams6110 wrote: post #19

khazhoux wrote: post #15

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Sure, there are laws limiting the totally unchecked exercise of power. Your example is too extreme, though. In my case, I was being sarcastic... yet it's nearly true. His mega-wealth let him buy the oceanside estate to begin with, and then his mega-wealth lets him ignore fines. The laws against this abuse are (as evidence here) quite weak.

That's the thing about fines. To really be punitive, they should be indexed to the wealth of the offender.

Post by trhway » Sat, Aug 12, 2017, 7:02 PM UTC

nitrogen wrote: post #39

nitrogen wrote: post #38

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It's barbaric overkill. It affects other parties far more than the target. It's emblematic of a vicious vindictiveness that is unbecoming of members of a cohesive society. It's simply disgusting to dig into unrelated matters over a relatively petty dispute. It shows no sense of proportionality, charity, or kindness. It is ultimately counterproductive to the creation of the kind of world we all ought to be creating fo…

It's clear from downvotes and lack of replies that some parts of this community have a long way to go before deserving the moral high ground the community tries to claim. There is no justice in mob justice.

Post by lovich » Sun, Aug 13, 2017, 1:43 AM UTC

nitrogen wrote: post #44

trhway wrote: post #43

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>There is no justice in mob justice. you can't have it both ways. The other side refused to accept the form of the justice of the civilized society, ie. the court of law justice. Do you have any other form of justice in mind, other than the two already mentioned - the court of law and the mob ones? Please do tell if you do.

The courts have mechanisms for dealing with land access disputes and uncooperative people, which have not been exhausted. And it's just a beach. While coastal access is an important right, it's not worth throwing away all the other aspects of civilized society to try to make a point.

Post by wpietri » Sun, Aug 13, 2017, 12:50 PM UTC

PhasmaFelis wrote: post #25

wpietri wrote: post #10

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Why stop there? As a rich man, he should be able to replace his failing liver by claiming yours. Alas, he can't in either case, because we the people have created limiting the unchecked exercise of power.

I know sarcasm is hard to nail down on the internet, but I thought that one was pretty clear.