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Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says

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Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says

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In my personal experiences, local drivers (ones who grew up in the city) know where they're going on Uber. Sadly I can't request for a driver who won't take 3 wrong turns before they even get to me...

I never get local drivers. Here in Austin everyone drives in from San Antonio or one of the little suburbs and tries to navigate downtown and can't figure it out at all. Don't even try to go to an event down the back roads. They won't know them so hopefully you do.

Wouldn't these guys get enough low rankings because of that to be kicked off the platform?

Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says

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Uber Drivers in India have been doing this since 2015.

What did Uber in India do about it? Does it affect the prices that much and frequently?

Why would Uber do anything about it? Its in Uber's interests to not solve it. They get more money no? Same with its competitor in India, Ola.

Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says

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The first guy to log back in (or the guy who doesn't log off at all) wins the game to the detriment of the others, limiting the extent of this practice. You can't have a successful oligopoly when there's no barrier to entry.

And yet, the consumers have still all lost.

Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says

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Yeah, I'm mostly not a fan, now that we're a few years in. Waves of people inexperienced, untrained in shuttling people around a major metro have resulted in downtown Chicago being an utter mess compared to only a few years ago. Chicago forced cab drivers to go through a training and certification course that at least forced them to understand the major routes and grid system we're on, and every time I've been in an…

>"Waves of people inexperienced, untrained in shuttling people around a major metro have resulted in downtown Chicago being an utter mess compared to only a few years ago." Has the city published any traffic impact studies? NYC showed concerned for Uber impact on traffic and made an attempt to get data and it turned into a political kerfuffle with accusations of protecting the taxi industry etc. I don't like the titl…

I think it'd be hard to actually quantify the impact. Chicago's also constantly under construction, the downtown area has had major bus route redesigns with the "JUMP" routes, and that's caused a lot of congestion too.

I'm not really familiar with new york's streets, but ours have been over capacity forever and now with uber/lyft there's a lot more single passenger car traffic in the business areas. Much more so than cabs, because getting them is much more convenient than cabs ever were here - calling a cab in chicago is a joke, honestly, and if you weren't in an area they pass by frequently you were out of luck. I feel like more people choose the uber option for short trips that would have been transit in the past. The convenience of it is the model, after all.

Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I never get local drivers. Here in Austin everyone drives in from San Antonio or one of the little suburbs and tries to navigate downtown and can't figure it out at all. Don't even try to go to an event down the back roads. They won't know them so hopefully you do.

Wouldn't these guys get enough low rankings because of that to be kicked off the platform?

That almost makes it worse, it keeps the ratio of brand new drivers high. There's only so many people who know the city and want to drive for Uber, and they're outnumbered by those who don't know the city and want to drive.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my personal experiences, local drivers (ones who grew up in the city) know where they're going on Uber. Sadly I can't request for a driver who won't take 3 wrong turns before they even get to me...

I never get local drivers. Here in Austin everyone drives in from San Antonio or one of the little suburbs and tries to navigate downtown and can't figure it out at all. Don't even try to go to an event down the back roads. They won't know them so hopefully you do.

downvote drivers who make poor navigation decisions!

Re: Uber drivers gang up to cause surge pricing, research says

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Obvious in hindsight. This sort of thing is inevitable any time you have dumb software on one side and humans on the other side. I'm mostly a fan of these non-taxi "taxi" services, but it seems like they are slowly and painfully rediscovering why taxis ended up so regulated in the first place.

Yeah, I'm mostly not a fan, now that we're a few years in. Waves of people inexperienced, untrained in shuttling people around a major metro have resulted in downtown Chicago being an utter mess compared to only a few years ago. Chicago forced cab drivers to go through a training and certification course that at least forced them to understand the major routes and grid system we're on, and every time I've been in an…

This is just the first step. The ultimate goal is driverless taxi fleets. Whether that's achievable ( technologically, legally, etc ) is another story.
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