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Re: Arch Linux Mirror Loli.forsale Removed After Name Complaint

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Nobody is forcing the person in question to host an arch mirror. Being included in the official mirror list does not come without rules and if one of these rules is "don't have a shitty domain name", I don't see the problem. PS, domain names on non-egregious TLDs are 5-10 bucks a year.

Pissing on people who spend their hard earned cash and precious mortal time on serving your community is a great way to ruin it. I hope nobody ever has to deal with your leadership. I don't see the value in punishing community members for the high crime of being autistic weeaboos.

I've created and managed many communities. Kicking people out for being rude isn't a thing that's ever in question and "giving back" to the community (no matter how) doesn't shield you from that. The person there got their mirror removed because the domain name is purposefully in bad taste. What else did you expect?

Alucard, the person in question, is someone who spends his "hard earned cash" trying to push the boundaries of every community he's a part of, just so he can get kicked out and complain about "SJWs" (keybase @alucard, look him up). I personally don't give a fuck, but people whose work solely exists just to stir shit up are never healthy for a community and you shouldn't be surprised when they're removed.

Maybe you think like that as well; maybe you, too, think all speech should be allowed in every community ever, with no boundary whatsoever. Maybe you think there's a speech-police armada out to get you, watching everything you write and analyzing it to send "anonymous complaints" when something's deemed too offensive.

What actually happened: Someone saw a fucked up URL in the mirrorlist, probably looked it up to make sure it wasn't serving malware, then reported the incident on the forum. An arch dev saw that and basically said "nope, not dealing with that nonsense" and removed the mirror.

Re: Arch Linux Mirror Loli.forsale Removed After Name Complaint

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So... do you mind answering the second part then? Will they change ycombinator.com to something else if somebody is offended? Or will you change your "smhost" if I'm gonna tell you it offends me?

> Why nobody is banning Rammstein concerts then? Because they choose not to. Each venue, organisation, or city which lawfully has influence over such events has the right to refuse. Neither case is "banning".

e.g. Rammstein have been refused on safety grounds before now.

2001: "Rammstein were unable to play their show yesterday at the Astoria in London due to significant restrictions to their stageshow and pyrotechnics. The band feel it would be unfair to their fans, to see a show that would have become highly compromised. If these issues can be resolved the band promises to return to the UK later in the year for live shows. Rammstein apologize for letting their fans down due to a problem which was out of their hands"

Re: Arch Linux Mirror Loli.forsale Removed After Name Complaint

#44
Personally I could care less. It's a gag that I'm sure some people do find amusing.

But their response is what gets me. Boo hoo, free speech is dead because you don't want ostencibly-pedophilic jokes associated with your software.

I say if you're committed to an off-color joke or gag, this is a terrible attempt to save face. Just apologize with authenticity and go more subtle. Don't turn it into another *gate or whatever the hell.

Of course, I'm only indifferent because nobody got hurt. A similar but genuinely terrible situation would be the Python Pantyshot debacle...

Re: Arch Linux Mirror Loli.forsale Removed After Name Complaint

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> like working for the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children Am I right in saying that this guy works for the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children (presumably in Portugal)? Because for some reason it seems particularly weird to me that someone in that organisation would find that domain name amusing. Maybe it is some kind of professional gallows humour?

Maybe he sets up and operates honeypots. Alas, what is in the domain but words, and what is in a word but that which we pour in?

Re: Arch Linux Mirror Loli.forsale Removed After Name Complaint

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> So it is okay to remove stuff just because somebody was offended? Yep.

So... do you mind answering the second part then? Will they change ycombinator.com to something else if somebody is offended? Or will you change your "smhost" if I'm gonna tell you it offends me?

In Oxford a lot of things are named after "Isis". Isis is the local name for the River Thames, presumably named after the Egyptian Godess. We should not change that name, just because it is used by a terorist group. But it would be a bit distasteful to use it as a new name. Especially if you use it intentionally with the intent of causing offence. Nuance matters.

Re: Arch Linux Mirror Loli.forsale Removed After Name Complaint

#48

some people who contribute to open source projects are really nice and considerate people, and some are dicks. When someone makes significant contributions, people tolerate a bit of dickish behavior and shrug it of as the behavior of a slightly eccentric genius. But for everyone else, people won’t put up with your shit. If you want people to accept your contributions, be nice, and don’t be a dick.

> some people who contribute to open source projects are really nice and considerate people, and some are vaginas. When someone makes significant contributions, people tolerate a bit of vaginaish behavior and shrug it of as the behavior of a slightly eccentric genius. But for everyone else, people won’t put up with your shit. If you want people to accept your contributions, be nice, and don’t be a vagina.

Re: Arch Linux Mirror Loli.forsale Removed After Name Complaint

#49

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Nobody is forcing the person in question to host an arch mirror. Being included in the official mirror list does not come without rules and if one of these rules is "don't have a shitty domain name", I don't see the problem. PS, domain names on non-egregious TLDs are 5-10 bucks a year.

Pissing on people who spend their hard earned cash and precious mortal time on serving your community is a great way to ruin it. I hope nobody ever has to deal with your leadership. I don't see the value in punishing community members for the high crime of being autistic weeaboos.

This is clearly a person who has many many domains.

Creating a public mirror requires very little time. I created the NYU arch mirror in under an hour. All you need is a server, bandwidth, and a cronjob.

The guy claims he is making an ISP, if so he likely has servers and bandwidth to spare.

Re: Arch Linux Mirror Loli.forsale Removed After Name Complaint

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> Why nobody is banning Rammstein concerts then? Because they choose not to. Each venue, organisation, or city which lawfully has influence over such events has the right to refuse. Neither case is "banning".

e.g. Rammstein have been refused on safety grounds before now. 2001: "Rammstein were unable to play their show yesterday at the Astoria in London due to significant restrictions to their stageshow and pyrotechnics. The band feel it would be unfair to their fans, to see a show that would have become highly compromised. If these issues can be resolved the band promises to return to the UK later in the year for live sho…

That's entirely irrelevant to this discussion.
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