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It's got HN hype and a lot of the negatives that come with that (awful learning materials by people who haven't used it in production) and a decent amount of real world use though nothing major for now.
I believe Discord uses Elixir, and I think that counts as "major."
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I'm just starting to use elixir and I'm curious, when would one use `()` in place of `nil`?
it's one of the controversial points in lisp dialects. treating empty list as nil means it's falsey when used as predicate which has it's pros and cons. for instance if empty list is truthy, this pseudocode won't terminate if tail is defined to always be a (possibly empty) list: while seq: head, seq = seq.head_tail() f(head)
Parens aren't used for any collection type in Elixir ( `(1,2,3)` is just a syntax error), so the lispyness explanation for () being nil in Elixir, while neat, doesn't really make sense
It's a fast-paced development! That's pretty great. I hope core team would consider slowing down a bit and catch up with Deployment, Monitoring(which Phoenix team working on it) and Platform(e.g. http/2) departments. v1.5 seems to have a bunch of bug fixes and deprecation (Hah! I'm not sure if it's like move fast and break thing). It is potentially the case. In every important part, there seems to have a solo smart p…
Yep, I just finished to setup a build and deploy system for Phoenix using edeliver and it's definitely not nice. A bunch of files in different languages, it feels unnecessarily hard. I hope that'll put some effort in that.
Elixir is truly an under-appreciated language. I've only toyed with it, and I'm really impressed with the whole ecosystem. Elixir, Phoenix, Ecto, Hex, etc all make a great ecosystem, and the awesomeness that is BEAM/OTP is just amazing. I loved the hot code deploys, and updating a system while it's running is something I've never seen before in action. Also Rustler is a great way to write CPU intensive NIF code too.
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It's got HN hype and a lot of the negatives that come with that (awful learning materials by people who haven't used it in production) and a decent amount of real world use though nothing major for now.
Isn't that just a timing issue? Why chalk it up to HN immediately when it's more likely to be the general interest in the language increasing and more people using it for less time are writing about it? This is a good thing as these people will probably lead the future for its use.
BTW I love Elixir and I'm happy to see it grow. Nothing bad about HN hype it just has its positives and negatives.
It's a fast-paced development! That's pretty great. I hope core team would consider slowing down a bit and catch up with Deployment, Monitoring(which Phoenix team working on it) and Platform(e.g. http/2) departments. v1.5 seems to have a bunch of bug fixes and deprecation (Hah! I'm not sure if it's like move fast and break thing). It is potentially the case. In every important part, there seems to have a solo smart p…
Yep, I just finished to setup a build and deploy system for Phoenix using edeliver and it's definitely not nice. A bunch of files in different languages, it feels unnecessarily hard. I hope that'll put some effort in that.
Elixir is truly an under-appreciated language. I've only toyed with it, and I'm really impressed with the whole ecosystem. Elixir, Phoenix, Ecto, Hex, etc all make a great ecosystem, and the awesomeness that is BEAM/OTP is just amazing. I loved the hot code deploys, and updating a system while it's running is something I've never seen before in action. Also Rustler is a great way to write CPU intensive NIF code too.
I wonder how the popularity trend of Elixir has been lately. I know you can try to see it through GitHub or Google Trends, but as many members of the Elixir community use Slack I don't know if it's the best way to do it. One thing I'd like to see would be the evolution of downloads of the language and on Hex.
It tough now since the web space is very competitive.
Before that it's just PHP (well it displaced Perl) and then RoR pop out to give it a real competition. For a while you'd think Ruby was going to over take PHP for web dev but it eventually converge to a steady state the growth rate isn't increasing at all. If you look at tiobe index and red monk's for language popularity Ruby have either stayed teh same and move down a few spot. Javascript just sky rocketed after nodejs (this is relative I remember the first year or so where it was slow in term of growth, hype, and adoption).
There are so many web dev pie out there for each language to take a chunk. After RoR was nodejs, this is on top of the other smaller player groovy, python django, java stuff, etc.. a least major players within the startups that I've experiences.
I believe Elixir and Erlang is a very great language for web dev. Unfortunately it comes into a time where the market is very competitive with many alternative out there staking a claim for this field.
At this point the web industry is really really hype imo. And people eat this up like candy.
I can say for sure Elixir is a better concurrency model and better language than NodeJS will ever be for web development. And the hype if there is any is real for Elixir.
http://www.phoenixframework.org/blog/the-road-to-2-million-w...
mix test mix docs Genserver Pattern matching
The list goes on, you find yourself in The Zone more often.
Elixir is truly an under-appreciated language. I've only toyed with it, and I'm really impressed with the whole ecosystem. Elixir, Phoenix, Ecto, Hex, etc all make a great ecosystem, and the awesomeness that is BEAM/OTP is just amazing. I loved the hot code deploys, and updating a system while it's running is something I've never seen before in action. Also Rustler is a great way to write CPU intensive NIF code too.
Massive thanks to the devs who work on it.