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I keep seeing these projects to make wordpress work more like a cms and I keep thinking why not just use a cms?
What's your recommendation for an open-source CMS? Preferably one with relatively simple administration that a layman (client) could still comprehend. cc @tyingq, @zaphar, @bybjorn, @dangerface
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No. WordPress is a blogging platform. A CMS is much more than that. If you need a CMS you probably want something more than WordPress.
Have you used it recently? What you say was true 10 years ago, but what features does it lack compared to a "true" CMS today? I've built several high-traffic e-commerce sites using it, none of them had a blog. Compared to something like Drupal it's a total pleasure to use.
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WordPress is a cms first and foremost. edit: lol today I learned cms != blog
wordpress.org says its a blog in the title, it's the first word.
WordPress is a flexible, multipurpose software platform.
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Have you used it recently? What you say was true 10 years ago, but what features does it lack compared to a "true" CMS today? I've built several high-traffic e-commerce sites using it, none of them had a blog. Compared to something like Drupal it's a total pleasure to use.
Same here, I built and oversee 3 WordPress online stores that together do more than $1m/month during peak season (summer). WordPress has the ability for pages as well as posts (along with versioning of those items). User account management with permissions. Custom fields. What exactly does "true CMS" mean? And I'd argue the easiest-to-use admin area out there, or so my clients lead me to believe.
Thats why wordpress is a blog and not a CMS because the only content it handles well are blog posts and basic wall of text pages. A CMS will not limit or put a definition on the content it manages, thats up to you. As an example, how complicated would it be to model the content of a store, store manager and then the relation ships between them, this is basic stuff for any other CMS.
If you don't show your clients anything else they will think its great. My clients say the same thing about wordpress, until they see something else then they wonder why anyone uses wordpress.
I keep seeing these projects to make wordpress work more like a cms and I keep thinking why not just use a cms?
What's your recommendation for an open-source CMS? Preferably one with relatively simple administration that a layman (client) could still comprehend. cc @tyingq, @zaphar, @bybjorn, @dangerface
You can go with a niche CMS if you want, but WordPress is the most popular for a reason.
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Same here, I built and oversee 3 WordPress online stores that together do more than $1m/month during peak season (summer). WordPress has the ability for pages as well as posts (along with versioning of those items). User account management with permissions. Custom fields. What exactly does "true CMS" mean? And I'd argue the easiest-to-use admin area out there, or so my clients lead me to believe.
I have moved wordpress stores to other e-commerce platforms and seen an instant improvement in sales. Thats why wordpress is a blog and not a CMS because the only content it handles well are blog posts and basic wall of text pages. A CMS will not limit or put a definition on the content it manages, thats up to you. As an example, how complicated would it be to model the content of a store, store manager and then the…
Which platforms? What was different about them that made them better than WP?
>because the only content it handles well are blog posts and basic wall of text pages
Unless you use post types. Now since 4.7 post types can apply to everything, including page templates. Have you tried using this and failed before you made your comment?
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Have you used it recently? What you say was true 10 years ago, but what features does it lack compared to a "true" CMS today? I've built several high-traffic e-commerce sites using it, none of them had a blog. Compared to something like Drupal it's a total pleasure to use.
That's like saying WordPress is a forum because you can install bbPress.
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Same here, I built and oversee 3 WordPress online stores that together do more than $1m/month during peak season (summer). WordPress has the ability for pages as well as posts (along with versioning of those items). User account management with permissions. Custom fields. What exactly does "true CMS" mean? And I'd argue the easiest-to-use admin area out there, or so my clients lead me to believe.
I have moved wordpress stores to other e-commerce platforms and seen an instant improvement in sales. Thats why wordpress is a blog and not a CMS because the only content it handles well are blog posts and basic wall of text pages. A CMS will not limit or put a definition on the content it manages, thats up to you. As an example, how complicated would it be to model the content of a store, store manager and then the…
Interested in what other CMS's you would recommend? You aren't being very specific.
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It's simple, non-tech admin staff are familiar with the interface (and can be easily trained), there's a vast ecosystem of plugins and integrations for it, it's easy to hire people or teams who have experience working with it. WP has its flaws and an upper limit to what it's capable of, but it's often a very pragmatic choice for small to medium sized content-driven websites.
I hear this a lot, but I've found it to be untrue. When I used to do wordpress development, a large part of my job was to customize admin pages so the non-tech staff could actually use it. The default wordpress admin interface leaves a lot to be desired.
Also, ACF Pro is your best friend in the CMS customization area & it easily dumps custom fields into the WP REST API for use in app frontends like ngx or React. I'm working on an app & CMS with this stack now and frankly, it's fantastic.