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Metaphors and analogies are not tools for critical thinking. When you use a metaphor or an analogy to link two ideas together, you are simply combining things that have no logical connection. It's essentially a quirk of human thought that this type of analogical "reasoning" even exists.
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>We don't want to make will power so great that it always overcomes survival instincts (like the need for sleep, pain in a tooth or a sliver, etc... all these are things we want people to still respond to so they don't kill themselves), we want to tamp down this false survival instinct of hunger to that of a normal person. I don't understand your argument. How does the OP just talking about increasing willpower, equa…
I consider hunger a survival instinct. People with obesity, especially those who have actively tried to lose weight but failed, have a stronger hunger drive than normals as their body fights back against caloric restriction attempts. If you just increased willpower to overcome this much stronger hunger drive, you'll have increased will power beyond any kind of equilibrium with the other (weaker) survival instincts, t…
Getting exercise sucks, it makes you exhausted, it hurts because you're literally harming your body in the short term so that it heals stronger, and it requires will power to go out and do every day and do it. Your body is doing all it can to prevent unnecessary expenditure of energy.
Is the solution to this just to make some crazy ass pill that solves all these issues? Or is it to just deal with it and exercise?
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>We don't want to make will power so great that it always overcomes survival instincts (like the need for sleep, pain in a tooth or a sliver, etc... all these are things we want people to still respond to so they don't kill themselves), we want to tamp down this false survival instinct of hunger to that of a normal person. I don't understand your argument. How does the OP just talking about increasing willpower, equa…
I consider hunger a survival instinct. People with obesity, especially those who have actively tried to lose weight but failed, have a stronger hunger drive than normals as their body fights back against caloric restriction attempts. If you just increased willpower to overcome this much stronger hunger drive, you'll have increased will power beyond any kind of equilibrium with the other (weaker) survival instincts, t…
Metaphors and analogies are not tools for critical thinking. When you use a metaphor or an analogy to link two ideas together, you are simply combining things that have no logical connection. It's essentially a quirk of human thought that this type of analogical "reasoning" even exists.
Some of the greatest thinkers in history used metaphors. For example - Sócrates, Descartes, Confucius, Kant. If metaphors were good enough for them, they're good enough for me.
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>We don't want to make will power so great that it always overcomes survival instincts (like the need for sleep, pain in a tooth or a sliver, etc... all these are things we want people to still respond to so they don't kill themselves), we want to tamp down this false survival instinct of hunger to that of a normal person. I don't understand your argument. How does the OP just talking about increasing willpower, equa…
I consider hunger a survival instinct. People with obesity, especially those who have actively tried to lose weight but failed, have a stronger hunger drive than normals as their body fights back against caloric restriction attempts. If you just increased willpower to overcome this much stronger hunger drive, you'll have increased will power beyond any kind of equilibrium with the other (weaker) survival instincts, t…
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"The rule of thumb" is probably the best-known example in English Common law. The rule held that it was ok for a man to beat his wife with a rod, as long as it was no thicker than his thumb. (Edit: I'm certain that we can find examples from the legal systems of other countries and cultures, if we bother to look.)
Speaking of bothering to look, you just have to check Wikipedia to know that this is a myth. http://csswashtenaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Rule_of_T... https://books.google.com/books?id=-IpmCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA105&dq=r...
> English common law before the reign of Charles II permitted a man to give his wife "moderate correction", but no "rule of thumb" (whether called by this name or not) has ever been the law in England.[2][8][d]
In other words, beating of wives was historically an acceptable practice under English Common law, notwithstanding my mistakenly using a debunked anecdote.
Thank you for "moderately correcting" me.
(edit: And to further the original point that historically English Common law allowed for wife-beating, from wikipedia:
> Prior to the mid-1800s, most legal systems viewed wife beating as a valid exercise of a husband's authority over his wife.
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I consider hunger a survival instinct. People with obesity, especially those who have actively tried to lose weight but failed, have a stronger hunger drive than normals as their body fights back against caloric restriction attempts. If you just increased willpower to overcome this much stronger hunger drive, you'll have increased will power beyond any kind of equilibrium with the other (weaker) survival instincts, t…
I could literally make the exact same argument about getting exercise. Getting exercise sucks, it makes you exhausted, it hurts because you're literally harming your body in the short term so that it heals stronger, and it requires will power to go out and do every day and do it. Your body is doing all it can to prevent unnecessary expenditure of energy. Is the solution to this just to make some crazy ass pill that s…
If and when someone does invent a crazy ass pill that replicates all the benefits of exercise without the effort, I'll gladly embrace it. The self-discipline-and-enduring-suffering part of exercise is just a means to an end, not a virtue in itself.
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Some of the greatest thinkers in history used metaphors. For example - Sócrates, Descartes, Confucius, Kant. If metaphors were good enough for them, they're good enough for me.
At best, metaphors are a useful mnemonic device. If they had any value or explanatory power, they'd be used in science. But they're not.
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Speaking of bothering to look, you just have to check Wikipedia to know that this is a myth. http://csswashtenaw.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Rule_of_T... https://books.google.com/books?id=-IpmCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA105&dq=r...
From the same wikipedia article: > English common law before the reign of Charles II permitted a man to give his wife "moderate correction", but no "rule of thumb" (whether called by this name or not) has ever been the law in England.[2][8][d] In other words, beating of wives was historically an acceptable practice under English Common law, notwithstanding my mistakenly using a debunked anecdote. Thank you for "moder…
You're assuming "moderate correction" means wife beating. In fact, if you look at the source Wikipedia cites for that phrase, it says:
>Such corrections specifically excluded beatings in favor of temporarily confining the wife to the household (like making a child sit in the corner). In fact, no British law, Common or Parliamentary, ever permitted wife beating under any circumstances.