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USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of it this way: every one of the 350 million americans chip in 0.22$ a year to get their iPhone cable for 1.80$ instead of 40$. Still sound bad?

Why do some people write the dollar sign after the number? Similarly, why do some people write the percent sign before the number? I initially thought it might be a locale thing (like swapping commas and decimal points), but I've seen a lot of Americans doing it too.

Just be glad it's not "$1 dollar".

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

#42
These costs were related to the terminal dues that USPS (and other postal services around the world) charge each other in exchange for distributing parcels in their respective countries. [1] The system dates back to the 1960s and was implemented to ensure people could exchange letters internationally -- and the massive increase in small international parcels from e-commerce transactions is now overwhelming it.

Things will change starting next year. The Universal Postal Union (UPU) has adopted a new revision of the terminal dues system [2] that classes bulky letters and small parcels differently from normal mail.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPU

[2] http://news.upu.int/no_cache/nd/member-countries-adopt-new-t...

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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Now this is boring. People keep complaining about the fact that China's cheap stuff is flooding the US market. How about exporting some expensive US made stuff to China to close the gap of trading? Oh, you can't. Chinese living in China are not even allowed to buy Intel Xeon Phi cards, export license is required to safeguard your nation. Maybe make the US short term visa more accessible to Chinese tourists so they ca…

The job of the US government is to vehemently scrutinize and analyze Chinese (and non US) nationals when they enter the country. The job of the US government is to protect US citizens. If a Chinese citizen is inconvenienced by these policies, well, too bad. They can visit a different country. But in the end, they will still visit New York.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

All middle men are destined to be automated out by the system, if they add no value then sooner rather than later. However, people selling stuff online in niche markets are still somehow surviving, but sooner or later someone will figure out where they are hiding and get them too. It's all a matter of time.

In this case small players can have advantages that big players don't. For example should I start shipping container loads of fidget spinners (latest thing among the youth here) from China to Finland I would have all kinds of things to take care of. User manuals, product safety issues, customs, local value added tax, consumer protection things etc. Small sellers operating from China can escape many of these.

I've recently got into 3D printing. I bought a printer from Amazon DE (directly from Amazon, shipped from Germany) that is known to cause fires (but can be fixed with a few simple mods). I doubt it would be allowed if it was made in Europe, but somehow Amazon have escaped regulation and sell these products cheaply made in China. I guess they pay taxes and customs so everyone is happy :-)

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

#45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of it this way: every one of the 350 million americans chip in 0.22$ a year to get their iPhone cable for 1.80$ instead of 40$. Still sound bad?

Why do some people write the dollar sign after the number? Similarly, why do some people write the percent sign before the number? I initially thought it might be a locale thing (like swapping commas and decimal points), but I've seen a lot of Americans doing it too.

It is a locale thing.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

#46
post #33

Now this is boring. People keep complaining about the fact that China's cheap stuff is flooding the US market. How about exporting some expensive US made stuff to China to close the gap of trading? Oh, you can't. Chinese living in China are not even allowed to buy Intel Xeon Phi cards, export license is required to safeguard your nation. Maybe make the US short term visa more accessible to Chinese tourists so they ca…

The job of the US government is to vehemently scrutinize and analyze Chinese (and non US) nationals when they enter the country. The job of the US government is to protect US citizens. If a Chinese citizen is inconvenienced by these policies, well, too bad. They can visit a different country. But in the end, they will still visit New York.

AFAIK the OP means that this hurts US more than Chinese tourists as the Chinese money is spent somewhere else and not in US.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

#47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think of it this way: every one of the 350 million americans chip in 0.22$ a year to get their iPhone cable for 1.80$ instead of 40$. Still sound bad?

Why do some people write the dollar sign after the number? Similarly, why do some people write the percent sign before the number? I initially thought it might be a locale thing (like swapping commas and decimal points), but I've seen a lot of Americans doing it too.

> Why do some people write the dollar sign after the number?

For foreigners, that's easy, that's how you write currencies in other languages.

For American doing it, I guess it is just a typing artefact. You think "ten dollars", you write "10$", there is no autocorrect for that kind of things so you let is slide.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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post #33

Now this is boring. People keep complaining about the fact that China's cheap stuff is flooding the US market. How about exporting some expensive US made stuff to China to close the gap of trading? Oh, you can't. Chinese living in China are not even allowed to buy Intel Xeon Phi cards, export license is required to safeguard your nation. Maybe make the US short term visa more accessible to Chinese tourists so they ca…

The job of the US government is to vehemently scrutinize and analyze Chinese (and non US) nationals when they enter the country. The job of the US government is to protect US citizens. If a Chinese citizen is inconvenienced by these policies, well, too bad. They can visit a different country. But in the end, they will still visit New York.

> But in the end, they will still visit New York

New Yorker here. No they won't. These policies end up with me having to fly to Hong Kong to oversee a Hong Kong team that deals with clients who got tired, over the past 15 years, with flying to the United States.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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post #33

Now this is boring. People keep complaining about the fact that China's cheap stuff is flooding the US market. How about exporting some expensive US made stuff to China to close the gap of trading? Oh, you can't. Chinese living in China are not even allowed to buy Intel Xeon Phi cards, export license is required to safeguard your nation. Maybe make the US short term visa more accessible to Chinese tourists so they ca…

And that’s why millions of chinese tourists every year are all across europe, buying everything they can get.

Especially affected by this are cities known for quality products, for example Solingen, the city where most of modern high quality knives and scissors are from, is overran by chinese tourists.

And the other thing you mentioned also works here – we simply export lots of automation robots to China, e.g. Foxconn just made a deal with a German automation company to replace over 400'000 workers with robots.

Just to prove that your argument is not just valid, but actually proven in reality.

Re: USPS loses millions each year on local delivery of mail from abroad (2014)

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> In most cases, however, postal services still charge each other less than they would charge their own citizens for moving a package across the country. Very likely, it costs them less. Own citizens don’t drop their packages at cargo hubs, already sorted and payed for by wire transfer. Pickup, sorting and processing payments have costs.

Actually, with DHL in Germany, that’s exactly what many people do. The cheapest version is paying by wire and getting the code to put on the package via their website, and dropping the parcel at a package hub, the second cheapest version s paying by wire and getting the code to put on the package via their website, then dropping off at a DHL store, the third cheapest version is getting it stamped and dropping it off at a DHL store, and the most expensive option (about 20$ more per parcel!) is getting it picked up by the delivery guy.

Which is why DHL can offer prices such as 4€ for a cross-Europe 1kg 30x30x60 package.

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