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Post by jayair »

mannicken wrote: post #3

I used to meditate but no longer do since I'm starting to trip (audial/visual hallucinations) very fast and the trip is usually not a good one. It is a very powerful natural psychedelic experience, comparable to third plateau of DXM at least... but controllable, unlike DXM.

Its funny, the first time I had a visual hallucination when I was meditating I thought I was watching one of those trippy music visualizations in my mind.

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markbao wrote: post #11

| For the study, participants were taught to meditate by focusing on the sensation of their breathing, acknowledging and dismissing any stray thoughts that popped into their heads. For those who do practice meditation, what are other techniques that are effective to you?

I listen to binaural beat loops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binaural_beats). It works great. I use Holosync (http://www.centerpointe.com/) for meditation and for short power-naps/quasi-meditation, I use Pzizz on my iPhone (http://www.pzizz.com/). I can especially recommend Pzizz.

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Post by StacyC »

Tawheed wrote: post #15

I learned Transcendental Meditation about a year ago, and it has had a seriously profound effect on my life.

Can you elaborate on the practical effects TM has had on your life? I've begun a meditation practice in the past year and I'm finding that I am much more patient and present with circumstances and people, and rarely have moments of anger or negativity any more.

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Post by wheels »

markbao wrote: post #11

| For the study, participants were taught to meditate by focusing on the sensation of their breathing, acknowledging and dismissing any stray thoughts that popped into their heads. For those who do practice meditation, what are other techniques that are effective to you?

It's worth spending a bit of time reading on, as I find the descriptions here to be overly superficial, perhaps largely because meditation is more defined by what you do not do, than what you do. It's also worth noting that there are many types of meditation. Years ago I read "Buddhism without Beliefs" (on "agnostic Buddhism"). Bullshitty as the title may sound, the major thing that I came away with was a decent meditation practice that I stuck to for a few months.

Sadly, I've found even for those convinced of meditation's benefits, like exercise, knowing you should do it doesn't mean you do.

http://monkeymindonline.blogspot.com/2008/04/critical-analys...

As a side note, the all time best quote on meditation, from Tom Robbins' Fierce Invalids Home from Hot Climates:

"Meditation hasn't got a damn thing to do with anything, 'cause all it has to do with is nothing. Nothingness. Okay? It doesn't develop the mind, it dissolves the mind. Self-improvement? Forget it, baby. It erases the self. Throws the ego out on its big brittle ass. What good is it? Good for nothing. Excellent for nothing. Yes, Lord, but when you get down to nothing, you get down to ultimate reality. It's then and exactly then that you're sensing the true nature of the universe, you're linked up with the absolute Absolute, son, and unless you're content with blowing smoke up your butt all your life, that there's the only place to be."

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Post by kymmx »

For me as a one who lives in Eastern country and practiced breathing, I can really say that it helps your body and mind. It is far old tradition to practice some kind of breathing(or zen you say, or yoga for more physical). After a few months of daily practice, I myself experienced amazing response of my body. But never attend classes that has some kind of religious color or ask you to buy some products. They might not be a hoax but some were reported as hoax and made some news in here.

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Post by heed »

Estragon wrote: post #20
markbao wrote: post #11

| For the study, participants were taught to meditate by focusing on the sensation of their breathing, acknowledging and dismissing any stray thoughts that popped into their heads. For those who do practice meditation, what are other techniques that are effective to you?

That description of meditation uses terms which cause a lot of confusion. Focusing on anything leads to problems. Dismissing thoughts leads to repression and unconscious expression of the thoughts. The way my teacher puts it is "rest in the experience of breathing." That means fostering awareness of every aspect of experience: the physical, the emotional and the mental. As for "effective," if you practice with any ho…

>...but better, in the long run, than ignorance.

How so?

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