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Re: So you "just need a hacker", huh?

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It's hard to find a brilliant hacker. But it's equally hard to find a brilliant marketing guy, a brilliant sales guy or a brilliant CEO. While I don't disagree with the point of the post I think that many hackers should step back and look at how many great marketing people, CEO's etc. they know. The actual programming part is only a small part of starting a company, but many hackers seem to think it is all they need…

What's more true is that pairwise, no two of these roles really understand each other.

People that understand and appreciate all sides of the equation are worth their weight in gold - unfortunately they are also very hard to find.

Re: So you "just need a hacker", huh?

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stubborn

the immediate downmods of my original comment of "stubborn" seems to be further testament to the overall quality in capacity for this site lately.

the authors comments are emotionally loaded opinions that are quite frankly, a result of immaturity and frustration.

so my original comment stands:

stubborn.

Re: So you "just need a hacker", huh?

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This would be better if the half that consists of mere insults was replaced with some ideas. There's a lot more you could say about this phenomenon, like why it happens, and what the solution might be.

Once again the top story is an embarrassment to News.YC. And unfortunately it is mostly the recently arrived users who voted it up. Maybe it's inevitable that I'll have to turn on some form of vote weighting.

Re: So you "just need a hacker", huh?

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As a non-coder who is cursed with a brain that comes up with a constant flow of creative ideas that my fingers can't execute, you've just shattered my world. Screw you. Oh, and do you mind if I borrow some of your old reference manuals, I just decided to learn how to program. ;-)

Re: So you "just need a hacker", huh?

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this presents a rather binary view of things - either you're a hacker or you're an arrogant MBA.

there are plenty of people who aren't hackers but they certainly understand tech and aren't beef-headed MBA's. mitch kapor and joe kraus never wrote a line of code.

Re: So you "just need a hacker", huh?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's more true is that pairwise, no two of these roles really understand each other.

People that understand and appreciate all sides of the equation are worth their weight in gold - unfortunately they are also very hard to find.

Current US hiring practices don't help. Job descriptions are well specified and exactly followed. That can be good, but it means you get what you ask for instead of something great but unknown.

Over here in the UK I see a little more flexibility in hiring good people and (finding somewhere to put them|letting them work out what to do).

Like everything it has good and bad points, not the least of which is that you really only need so many people who can do everything.

Re: So you "just need a hacker", huh?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure I need a brilliant CEO, brilliant marketing guy, etc, etc. But first I need a great product. I'm going to make that, not the other guys.

You wouldn't start coding something before you'd fleshed out a design, right? So why would you start designing something before you identified the market for it? Marketing is the social component of design, and you need brilliant marketing before you can create that brilliant product.

I would say you don't need brilliant marketing before you can make a product. Brilliant marketing can maximize the money you make off an idea, but you can make a great product with a small market. 37signals is a great example. They build products for them, since they know what they want.

Of course, this doesn't work in a lot of situations. People who don't know how to write software need software too. To start a startup though, all you need is an idea that some people might think is ok. If it really is good, marketing and business will come later, after you've developed the product.

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Lots of people are Jacks of All Trades, but masters of none. Take, for example, the Ocean's Eleven/Twelve/Thirteen movie franchise. Everybody had skills and roles to play. It wasn't possible for one person to be in all places all the time, nor was it possible for a single person to perform each job. This blogger...lots of attitude, but doesn't sound like a team player. Attitude will take you only so far.

Yeah. It also wasn't possible to knock out all of the power in Las Vegas with an EMP bomb, to lift a mansion covertly with a 12-man team in one night, or to "hack" into a casino's "security system" by clipping little tiny things to a few network cables.

That's because those were movies.

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