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Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by cdevs »

parmesan wrote: post #5
ainar-g wrote: post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

I switched back to Sublime after a while, Atom was so slow to start, at least when I first tried it out in ~2014 (2015?). Sublime loads in like 100ms on all my machines. I'm also the vim kind tho, but when I browse large datasets and dumps I use Sublime.

The load time was also one of my 2 reasons to jump back to sublime. The other reason was it struggled opening Linux mounted ssh files. If those things can be dealt with I would love atom and modifying with JavaScript and CSS.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by snarfy »

xiljin wrote: post #19
ainar-g wrote: post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

For me, also a VIM kind of guy, Atom lets me use VIM movement keys in the file/project pane which grants me total mouse freedom. Another Atom bonus is that file additions, deletions and changes are flagged in the file/project pane.

There are a few vim extensions for vscode that are pretty good.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#43

Post by ssijak »

I really wanted Atom to work. But in the end, it is just to damn slow, takes too much memory, and hogs on large files. Now, I find vscode to be very much what I need for javascript/typescript/html/css work.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#44

Post by skocznymroczny »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #34
ainar-g wrote: post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

Used to use Atom over VS Code, but for whatever reason VS Code just feels more like a lightweight IDE than a text editor. I don't consider it a text editor by default because it comes with debugging and other features. The fact that it's called Visual STUDIO Code tells me it's not necessarily lightweight which I'm fine with. Visual Studio Code has amazing D and Rust plugins that are better than programming D in most…

Amazing D plugin? Which one? I have one plugin installed (don't remember which one now, I have it at home) and while it's acceptable, I wouldn't call it amazing. It doesn't do autocomplete from dub packages, it doesn't have any refactoring features.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#45

Post by skocznymroczny »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #34
ainar-g wrote: post #4

Please, don't consider this a troll question (I personally am a vim kind of guy), but is there any reason to use Atom over VSCode these days? The sole reason to me seems that VSCode is developed by the "evil" Microsoft. Other than that, most people I know who tried Atom switched to VSCode or (back to) Sublime in the end.

Used to use Atom over VS Code, but for whatever reason VS Code just feels more like a lightweight IDE than a text editor. I don't consider it a text editor by default because it comes with debugging and other features. The fact that it's called Visual STUDIO Code tells me it's not necessarily lightweight which I'm fine with. Visual Studio Code has amazing D and Rust plugins that are better than programming D in most…

Amazing D plugin? Which one? I have one plugin installed (don't remember which one now, I have it at home) and while it's acceptable, I wouldn't call it amazing. It doesn't do autocomplete from dub packages, it doesn't have any refactoring features.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

#46

Post by bauerd »

ssijak wrote: post #43

I really wanted Atom to work. But in the end, it is just to damn slow, takes too much memory, and hogs on large files. Now, I find vscode to be very much what I need for javascript/typescript/html/css work.

This is my exact experience. VS Code was the first Microsoft-associated product I touched in an eternity, and boy what a pleasant editor it is. Atom greets me with a blank screen for two seconds and at times it even made my fans spin. Not so with VS Code.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by v1n337 »

ssijak wrote: post #43

I really wanted Atom to work. But in the end, it is just to damn slow, takes too much memory, and hogs on large files. Now, I find vscode to be very much what I need for javascript/typescript/html/css work.

Isn't VSCode Electron based too? After reading this article[1], I've shunned desktop apps using Electron, because it just seems wasteful in terms of memory. I've switched back to Sublime.

[1] https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by yoodenvranx »

8draco8 wrote: post #40
jhasse wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think he just wanted to explain why Notepad++ and Geany are not an option for him.

Notepad++ have multicursors https://notepad-plus-plus.org/features/multi-editing.html and block editing https://notepad-plus-plus.org/features/column-mode-editing.h... . Don't know about Geany.

That's good to know, thx. The last time I checker Notepad++ did not have them and I decided to stay with Sublime.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by ssijak »

v1n337 wrote: post #47
ssijak wrote: post #43

I really wanted Atom to work. But in the end, it is just to damn slow, takes too much memory, and hogs on large files. Now, I find vscode to be very much what I need for javascript/typescript/html/css work.

Isn't VSCode Electron based too? After reading this article[1], I've shunned desktop apps using Electron, because it just seems wasteful in terms of memory. I've switched back to Sublime. [1] https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/

IDK about vscode, but it is much more snappier then Atom, at least from my experience.

But, I do agree about Electron. Worst thing ever for desktop apps. When I look at my process manager, I wanna cry when I see 10+ apps taking 500+ MB each when native one would take like 30MB.

Re: Atom 1.18 released

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Post by bauerd »

ssijak wrote: post #49
v1n337 wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't VSCode Electron based too? After reading this article[1], I've shunned desktop apps using Electron, because it just seems wasteful in terms of memory. I've switched back to Sublime. [1] https://josephg.com/blog/electron-is-flash-for-the-desktop/

IDK about vscode, but it is much more snappier then Atom, at least from my experience. But, I do agree about Electron. Worst thing ever for desktop apps. When I look at my process manager, I wanna cry when I see 10+ apps taking 500+ MB each when native one would take like 30MB.

VS Code is an Electron app, too.
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