Published January 31, 2008
I am a bit confused by the website (blog?), as the sidebar links to unrelated strange stuff (graphic novel, pictures of asia). But the site should make sense as a two letter .org url is quite prestigious.
Better than Free (2008)
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#42> A couple of high profile companies, like Red Hat, Apache, and others make their living doing exactly that. Apache??
>In the 2010–11 fiscal year, the Foundation took in $539,410, almost entirely from grants and contributions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apache_Software_Foundation#Fin...
Re: Better than Free (2008)
#43Immediacy -- who really needs it? I mean, for a movie, just wait a few months and you can download it. If you don't want to wait, you still have to wait for the next movie to come out, so it makes no difference really. To say it another way: no matter where you are in the pipeline, you still have to wait the same amount of time for new data to arrive.
Re: Better than Free (2008)
#44Earlier quoted context omitted.
Those are simply much more important subjects for their votes than copyright.
Legalizing Marijuana is more important than copyright? I disagree. Copyright is about how we handle our cultural heritage and how we compensate those who produce those artifacts. To me that is a way more important topic than the war on drugs.
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
You seem to have gotten the lesson of bread and circuses backwards. It's not meant to be understood as a good thing. It was meant maintain a docile public that's easily manipulated, taken advantage of and ordered around, as long as it was given enough food to eat and BS arena shows to distract it. Rioting against scum like Nero (and modern equivalents) would have been the good and democratic option.
Your view seems to be pretty shallow on why Nero was alive for so long while being a monster. One doesn't simply kill Nero and continue to rule TRE. Easy manipulation of "docile" public is an inseparable part of democracy, actually. Most people have little to no political education, not to mention the understanding of methods and processes. Most of us simply believe, because politics is boring, bread and circuses is…
But surely this is not a universal truth and can changed with time and effort?
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
One reason is that journalists influence public opinion and thus their opinion carries weight with the average politician. Journalists often pretty strongly support copyright because they need it in order to earn a salary.
There are plenty of countries where journalists fear politicians instead. That can't be the whole story.
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#47For starters, the Internet itself is far more about distribution than duplicating. It's effect is to achieve distribution of information. Computers alone are sufficient to achieve copying, but it was the distribution component which computers alone, or even low-speed or fixed-location Internet failed to achieve. And though the Internet's distribution involves copying of bits, that's not the critical function.
Information theory itself concerns the origination, distribution, receipt, comprehension (or decoding), and possibly redistribution of messages. Those are instantiated through such systems as webservers (or application engines), the Internet, protocols, and ultimately some human or nonhuman interpretation engine.
Kelly is also correct in that the Internet removes costs and frictions. Or alternatively, it shifts the cost points of media, and generally reduces the costs of originating and duplicating information, without increasing individual capacity to comprehend or filter it. This gets to the core of what's been called the attention economy, forseen in the 1970s and earlier by Herbert Simon and Alvin Toffler.
I've been looking at quantifications of information absorption capacity of people and suspect that that's generally quite low -- a few tens, possibly hundreds, of messages per day, but not much above that. The consequence of filter overload is a real problem. And the attention we can give any one message is directly inversely proportional to the number of messages received, divided by our time to dedicate to such messages.
Reducing costs gives rise to the Jevons paradox: It's not that the high-barrier-to-entry messages of the high-cost era suddenly become more available, but that a new flood of low-barrier, low-value (or negative-value) messages appear. Spam. Viruses. Junk mail. Phone solicitations. Web advertising. Clickbait.
There's also Woozle's Law of Epistemic Systems: as the audience using any given communications medium increases in number (and especially: in significance), the value of manipulating that audience will increase.
In market economics, low marginal costs become a problem as marginal cost is the mechanism by which markets set prices. For goods with high fixed and low marginal costs, market prices are simply insufficient to reward producers (or creators). This is the subject of recent books by Paul Mason (Postcapitalism) and Jeremy Rifkin (The Zero Marginal Cost Society).
Gresham's Law is another challenge, multiple ways. The popular form is "Bad X drives out good", though the general mechanism is more nuanced: Greshams mechanisms are complexity constraints applied where a "better" (more complex) good is valued identically to a "worse" one, for whatever reasons, within a given domain. The general result is that the worse goods predominate. The capacity to distinguish better from worse itself affects this, which is why a larger market tends to incentivise worse goods. And, if there is an alternative market in which the better goods are more highly rewarded, you'll see a flight of those goods to those markets. This is often exhibited as brain-drain: flight from low-paid professions such as teaching, government work, politics, or academia, to business, trades, or finance, for example.
It can also be exhibited as international flows of capital, coin, or talent.
And this plays out in information markets, where the lack of sufficient reward will see authors and creators either depart for realms in which they are appropriately rewarded, or to other fields. Political and ethnic persecution can have similar effects -- the flight of European Jews to the US in the 1930s and 1940s, or the flight of American blacks to Europe from the 1930s through the 1970s and even beyond, as examples.
Sorting out the implications of changing relative costs and rewards is key, and that's what Kelly, and a great many others, fail to do.
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#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
You seem to have gotten the lesson of bread and circuses backwards. It's not meant to be understood as a good thing. It was meant maintain a docile public that's easily manipulated, taken advantage of and ordered around, as long as it was given enough food to eat and BS arena shows to distract it. Rioting against scum like Nero (and modern equivalents) would have been the good and democratic option.
Your view seems to be pretty shallow on why Nero was alive for so long while being a monster. One doesn't simply kill Nero and continue to rule TRE. Easy manipulation of "docile" public is an inseparable part of democracy, actually. Most people have little to no political education, not to mention the understanding of methods and processes. Most of us simply believe, because politics is boring, bread and circuses is…
It wasn't about "one simply killing Nero", it was about the people revolting and restoring the republic, which Rome once was.
>Easy manipulation of "docile" public is an inseparable part of democracy, actually. Most people have little to no political education, not to mention the understanding of methods and processes.
They don't need to. Democracy, as defined by the ancient Athenians, is not about "political education" or understanding of fancy "methods and processes".
It's also not about what's "best" (always defined by some narrow "experts" or partial interests). It's about representing the will and interests of the majority, good or bad.
Distracting the people with with "pan and circuses" is not part of the democracy (and of course at this point Rome wasn't a democracy, not even a republic).
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
The Roman policy of "bread and circus" helped prevent rioting in the streets. I would much rather our resources go to entertainment than to more police and prisons. So, I am happy to put entertainment in the category of need.
You seem to have gotten the lesson of bread and circuses backwards. It's not meant to be understood as a good thing. It was meant maintain a docile public that's easily manipulated, taken advantage of and ordered around, as long as it was given enough food to eat and BS arena shows to distract it. Rioting against scum like Nero (and modern equivalents) would have been the good and democratic option.
I am satisfied with how that went.