I used to be a victim of this myself. My solution to this problem (which works very well) is to lead a life of strict routine, where every hour is allotted for doing something specific. As I stuck to the routine, this whole overthinking thing magically disappeared as I simply didn't have the time to overthink. Everything is also progressing 10 times faster as well. I can't guarantee that it will work for you too but…
What kind of tooling are you using to track the routine?
Ask HN: How to stop overthinking everything in my life?
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#42Everyone has these problems dude. It's perfectly normal and as you get older you stop beating yourself up (to some degree) and focus on the things you do well and slowly you realise maybe you aren't the best, but that you are a high quality person, in different and interesting ways from everyone else. It's no bad thing to experience some bad times and feel these feelings from time to time - what I've found with mysel…
Re: Ask HN: How to stop overthinking everything in my life?
#43Trite answer here - try meditation. Force yourself to take a regular (daily) space in your life where you sit down specifically to empty your mind of all thoughts. By doing this you may find that your mind starts to respond to the stimulus (lack of stimulus?) and forge new pathways to stop your pattern of destructive thinking. It's worked for me, and may well do the trick for you.
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#44Everyone has these problems dude. It's perfectly normal and as you get older you stop beating yourself up (to some degree) and focus on the things you do well and slowly you realise maybe you aren't the best, but that you are a high quality person, in different and interesting ways from everyone else. It's no bad thing to experience some bad times and feel these feelings from time to time - what I've found with mysel…
agreed. but do see a doctor if you are tasting sweaters, it might be due to a stroke.
Re: Ask HN: How to stop overthinking everything in my life?
#45What I have found to be the difference between individuals who are able to get out of this state and those who continue to struggle is an incredibly strong sense of self identity. Having a personal anecdote that is unique, filled with novel experiences, and ultimately ends with a call to action for accomplishing social good is key.
My suggestions:
1. Travel and live with communities that have very little. Experience their traditions, families, frustrations, and joys.
2. Think deeply about your purpose and whether American individualism can really continue to provide you with the life you want to live. It very well may, but it is an important question to ask.
3. Go for walks by yourself and narrate your personal story under your breath. Imagine the good you want to accomplish and pretend you're being asked why you do what you do. The more experiences you have the more cohesive your story will be and the more confidently you will be able to take charge of your purpose/destiny/life. Also, journal.
4. Always find ways to give back. Give your last dollar to the person on the street. If you volunteer do it with kids, perhaps at a refugee center. Cook dinner for your parents and siblings when you're home, or wake up early to surprise them with breakfast.
5. Surround yourself with people who are deeply passionate about what they do and haven't become lost themselves. I live in SF for a few months every year and have found these individuals nearly impossible to find in the city. Search elsewhere.
Good luck. You're thinking about these things and are clearly on the right path. Much love!
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#46Sometimes I go to http://syria.liveuamap.com wondering when will it end and will it ever. I suppose that as long as there are these redpill people who found an excuse to only care about themselves that we will be stuck in this situation.
I think the problem is that since most of us are finding out life has no inherent meaning (unless you consider endless reproduction a meaning) we are stuggling to find a reason to do anything. If you are underpriviledged you are still struggling to survive so you have that to think about and spend most of your time on but we who are in countries where 5% need to work to feed the other 95% and who arent the unluckiest ones in those countries are having issues finding "meaning" in things we are doing.
I'm pretty sure our brains aren't meant to work in these conditions so I hope machines remove as ASAP and continue doing their own thing. I always remember the "transcendence" outer layer of Vernor Vinges universe where life evolves so far as to either destroy itself or reach some state of thought unimaginable to us right now.
I thing the best thing ever is that we will eventually all die and all will stop mattering. I really hope theres no heaven and hell and all that shabang with the Flying Spaghetti Monster and all so that actually we have to exist forever and bother ourselves with these useless questions.
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#47I've been working with youth including teenagers and individuals in their early to mid 20s for the past decade. What you're experiencing is incredibly common, especially for wealthier white Americans. What I have found to be the difference between individuals who are able to get out of this state and those who continue to struggle is an incredibly strong sense of self identity. Having a personal anecdote that is uniq…
I always find it sad that the most popular "influencers" have advocated for things I dont personally care about (sports and music careers, all kinds of "reality" shows) while there are so few popular charismatic matematicans, physicists, programmers, biologists, doctors when I personally know many people who are very passionate and motivating in these fields.
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#48Self loathing is just another one of those problems. Someone depressed is also that way. Like a cigarette that they cannot ignore, of all the things they could be doing, they choose this -- the one thing that is expensive and that can kill you and that will even get you dirty looks nowadays.
> I am outwardly extremely confident
Why did you put "outwardly"? Because you're not confident. So you are being honest with yourself, in that you're not writing lies. Except, why would "outwardly" matter? You're trying to make excuses as to why you shouldn't be feeling the way you feel. But that's the problem. Emotions defy logic, because they precede them. And an excuse is something that deflects blame but otherwise does nothing. It's a reason for inaction.
> overthinking everything
This is not related. It's your self-loathing that's got you down. Maybe you even have mild depression. Either way, that's the problem, and not anything else.
The simplest answer to your problem is love. You need to learn to love yourself. Culturally Eastern culture can be especially undermining of an individuals healthy mental image of themselves. The burdens of society and of parental expectations weighs heavy, and the environment is that of anxiety and judgementalism, and not that of love and forgiveness. But this pattern exists in the West also. I'm guessing you had strict parents?
As gh1 here has mentioned, having a routine or creating ways of taking your mind off yourself is one way to deal with self-loathing. Being immersed in a passion project can do it also, like a startup. If you're too busy, you have no time for hating, even yourself. It's also what people do after bad breakups.
But you won't have time for love either, and maybe that's what you need. Some don't waste any time after breakups, and choose to quickly move on.
I used to self-loath. But now I couldn't be happier with myself. And it really boils down to the realization that there is absolutely nothing wrong with me. All my imperfections are common. I am just like everyone else. My problems are boring. And it's like you said. I can get what I want. Then what's the problem? The only thing that got in my way, and that is getting in your way, is that self image. It's how you think of yourself that alters what you do with yourself. That's the only thing getting in your way. And THAT TOO is an incredibly common and boring problem! It might be personal and in your face, but objectively speaking, tons of people have similar issues and you are not flawed or hate-worthy in any unique or special way. You just have low self esteem.
It also helped to understand why I was that way. Turns out, there were self loathing people around me. Japanese society didn't help either. But seeing those influences as what they were helped protect myself. Thinking is done with cues. Much like writing prompts, there are things that get us going (like this post on HN does for me). So understanding and counteracting those loathing cues is also what it's about. What makes you hate yourself?
But overthinking is not going to help. Any thinking is not going to help. It's a symptom of the problem. Like wanting that cigarette or wanting to gamble or wanting to drink. You're wanting to think so you can loath.
The cure is with maintaining your emotional health and making that a priority. You may need a change in environment, a change in acquaintances, and even a change in diet. But what you need to do is stop hating yourself, and start treating yourself. What do you enjoy? I love cold brew coffee and mindlessly shooting hoops. I love playing with my kid. I love surprising my wife by cleaning the dishes before she wakes up in the morning. Treating yourself is an act, and it's the act of loving yourself. It takes knowing someone to know how to make them feel better. And for that, you should introspect and analyze. But all you really have to do is remember. You need to remember those times and those feeling you'd rather be feeling now, and figure out how to get back there. From then on, it's all action.
In parting, here is an exert from the movie The Beautiful Mind, just to illustrate my point about logic is not in anyway unique:
Nash: [Making an acceptance speech in front of the Nobel prize audience during the ceremony] I've always believed in numbers, in equations, in logic and reason.But after a lifetime of such pursuits: I ask What truly is logic? Who decides reason? My quest has taken me to the physical, the metaphysical, the delusional, and back. I have made the most important discovery of my career - the most important discovery of my life. It is only in the mysterious equations of love that any logic or reasons can be found. I am only here tonight because of you
Nash: [looking at and speaking to Alicia]
Nash: You are the only reason I am. You are all my reasons. Thank you.
Re: Ask HN: How to stop overthinking everything in my life?
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Also read up on Borderline Personality Disorder and codependency. After you become educated on these conditions, the way that "SJWs" act will suddenly make much more sense. The gaslighting, projection, self-loathing, hair-trigger emotions ("triggering"), malleable/distorted/missing sense of personal identity, and compulsive lying, which are all underlying issues caused by early childhood traumas and bad/neglectful/ab…
Eli5 please? ;-)
You can safely ignore the post.
If you want information about personality disorder you'd be better off reading "Meeting the Challenge, Making the Difference". http://www.emergenceplus.org.uk/news-from-emergence/507-meet...
Re: Ask HN: How to stop overthinking everything in my life?
#50Break the chains and own your life. Do good for the world and it doesn't matter your background.
You need to grow a small IDGAF portion in your brain as well and do what you want to do, not what others want you to do.
You seem like a good person so I'm confident you will do net-positive things, so cast the BS guilt aside, own it, and go make things happen.