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Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

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Re: Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

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post #37

Why use dead people? Property tax records are public information. There's more than one website that lets you go through them.

I'm imagining that the dead are just a small fraction of the fake comments: just those who had died since whatever dataset being used was last regenerated/cleaned.

Re: Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

#43
Comments the say the same thing just count for a single comment ... and they don't count up. This isn't a vote. The FCC is a regulator. The government calls the shots. Misusing the comment process as a sort of virtual petition could in theory influence the government but there has to be a better way to do this sort of thing.

Re: Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it does matter, because it shows malice and intent. All three data points have to be taken together (FCC Opens up comments, Comments criminally spammed, FCC decides the issue X). Given the clear and convincing evidence of malfeasance in the comment stream, the FCC's actions can be judged as reasonable or unreasonable. So what matters is that we shine light on their agenda so that it is not possible for them to cr…

> So what matters is that we shine light on their agenda so that it is not possible for them to credibly deny they are not following their own policies. And who is going to shine a line or report on that? The "fake news" media? Nobody will care, they don't want to hear it and they won't believe it, cognitive dissonance is amazingly powerful.

It's a long game. This administration will (eventually) turn over, and we need the new guys to be very clear about where the old guys fucked up.

Re: Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

#45
post #14

It honestly doesn't matter. Nobody at the FCC is going to read these things - it's there because it has to be there, not because they intend on listening. They've set their agenda, now they're executing it. They have absolutely no plans on listening to anyone along the way. Nobody in this entire administration does.

No, it's big deal, very dangerous AND it's a crime.

Re: Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

#46
post #37

Why use dead people? Property tax records are public information. There's more than one website that lets you go through them.

Whoever did this probably did some mass data collection like you are suggesting. But some people died between collection date and message date, or the data was not up to date, so we got dead people commenting on the issue.

Re: Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

#47
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the folks who aren't about to give up so easy, here's the reddit sub where people are brainstorming ways to "make" them listen. Again. I imagine it wil be something along the lines of another blackout or whatever a "march" on the Internet would look like. https://www.reddit.com/r/MarchForNetNeutrality/

I'm not giving up, I'm stating the facts of the case. If you've actually got a concrete proposal on something that will actually shift the agenda of this agency, I'm 100% all ears. I suspect I'll be waiting a while though, since the FCC, like many of the commissions like it, were not created with the Russian coup like we're experiencing right now in mind. We can protest and gnash our teeth all we want, but very, very…

Good luck with that, the current FCC chair was an Obama appointee. This has nothing to do with silly Russian conspiracy theories and everything to do with money.

Re: Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

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The fact that big tech companies like Facebook support net neutrality actually makes me consider not supporting it. I just don't trust Facebook's motives - What I do trust is their ability and willingness to screw over society in order to maximise profits.

Re: Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

#49
post #14

It honestly doesn't matter. Nobody at the FCC is going to read these things - it's there because it has to be there, not because they intend on listening. They've set their agenda, now they're executing it. They have absolutely no plans on listening to anyone along the way. Nobody in this entire administration does.

This reluctant attitude is what allows them to win.

Re: Dead People Are Posting Anti-Net Neutrality Comments to FCC Website

#50
post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But it does matter, because it shows malice and intent. All three data points have to be taken together (FCC Opens up comments, Comments criminally spammed, FCC decides the issue X). Given the clear and convincing evidence of malfeasance in the comment stream, the FCC's actions can be judged as reasonable or unreasonable. So what matters is that we shine light on their agenda so that it is not possible for them to cr…

> So what matters is that we shine light on their agenda so that it is not possible for them to credibly deny they are not following their own policies. And who is going to shine a line or report on that? The "fake news" media? Nobody will care, they don't want to hear it and they won't believe it, cognitive dissonance is amazingly powerful.

Cognitive dissonance is when you hold two opposing viewpoints at once. Like if you think killing animals for food is wrong but you love eating steaks and plan to continue doing so.

It does not mean choosing to ignore reality or being willfully blind like you are using it here. I'm not sure how it has become popular to misuse it in that way over the last couple years, but it seems to be a thing.

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