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Re: Apple Monitoring Blood Glucose

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Research labs have been trying this for years with every spectroscopy known to man - the signal is just too weak. I don't see any reason to think Apple has figured something out that labs of optics experts can't do on the benchtop.

Maybe Apple will tell their users with t2 diabetes they are eating wrong, roll out a new streamlined diet, and everyone gets better.

But how is that different from the Google contact lenses from 2014?

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> I'm excited to see where it goes.

BREAKING NEWS FROM THE FUTURE (Reuters):

Hundreds of thousands Apple users die within hours after IoT glucose measurement + insulin pump device overdoses insulin during WannaDie cyberattack. Apple urges all surviving users to update the system immediately. Surviving users and family members of deceased will get 10 year full Apple subscription and special $20,000 memorial gift card after signing settlement agreement online. update: WaPo reports that CIA has been aware of the vulnerability for 5 years.

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> I'm excited to see where it goes. BREAKING NEWS FROM THE FUTURE (Reuters): Hundreds of thousands Apple users die within hours after IoT glucose measurement + insulin pump device overdoses insulin during WannaDie cyberattack. Apple urges all surviving users to update the system immediately. Surviving users and family members of deceased will get 10 year full Apple subscription and special $20,000 memorial gift card…

Thank goodness, specialist embedded systems are immune from Malware.

Re: Apple Monitoring Blood Glucose

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> testing more frequently doesn't accomplish anything totally anecdotal but I test aprox 10 times per day and have reduced an A1C of 8.2 at diagnosis to 5.5 (non diabetic). I'm extremely sceptical that you can optimise your plan sufficiently with a test once per day, it's a akin to having a speedometer on your car that only gives you a speed once during the entire journey.

Are you T1 or T2? I was specifically talking about T2s; testing multiple times a day can be useful to get a sense of daily patterns, but those patterns will tend to persist from one month to the next so there's no need to test many times a day every day.

I'm T2. I use the levels to make small adjustments throughout the day.

Some examples: In the morning I go for a cycle, I use the levels to decide what distance to do and also during the ride to ensure I don't hypo (I'll eat some fruit if my levels are getting too close to 70). After lunch I go for a walk, depending on how my level is looking it will either be 3km or 5km. In the evening I generally check my level about 10pm, if it's looking too high then I'll add an additional walk in.

There are many other details where I use my levels to adjust my behaviour, at this point it's all automatic but I couldn't do it without knowing what my level is at any point in time (needless to say I'll be queuing outside the Apple store if they do actually release an Apple Watch with a glucose monitor).

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Unfortunately I can't get this in the UK. I asked, but they only give out to kids or people who poorly manage their T1. :(

There's https://www.freestylelibre.co.uk/libre/ which I believe you can just order online (I'm considering one myself). You have to scan the sensor yourself(it stores the data between scans) so it doesn't trigger alarms like the dexcom but for gathering data about how exercise/diet effects your levels it should do the job nicely I think. edit: The starter pack costs £159.95, see https://www.freestylelibre.co.uk/libre…

The sensors are quite pricey to get, each lasting roughly 2 weeks. Unfortunately the sensors aren't available on prescription yet. Let's hope this changes.

Re: Apple Monitoring Blood Glucose

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> I'm excited to see where it goes. BREAKING NEWS FROM THE FUTURE (Reuters): Hundreds of thousands Apple users die within hours after IoT glucose measurement + insulin pump device overdoses insulin during WannaDie cyberattack. Apple urges all surviving users to update the system immediately. Surviving users and family members of deceased will get 10 year full Apple subscription and special $20,000 memorial gift card…

Thank goodness, specialist embedded systems are immune from Malware.

Together with self-driving cars that have also perfected data protection.

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Unfortunately I can't get this in the UK. I asked, but they only give out to kids or people who poorly manage their T1. :(

There's https://www.freestylelibre.co.uk/libre/ which I believe you can just order online (I'm considering one myself). You have to scan the sensor yourself(it stores the data between scans) so it doesn't trigger alarms like the dexcom but for gathering data about how exercise/diet effects your levels it should do the job nicely I think. edit: The starter pack costs £159.95, see https://www.freestylelibre.co.uk/libre…

These were recently included in the coverage given by the danish government (at least in my area) and this is probably the biggest quality of life improvement I have received in at least 10 years of diabetes. Even though it's not as clever as some of the other systems, being able to get an idea of the level without having to find a secluded spot and prick my finger is a really great feeling. It also means I can actually check my levels while at a party for example, where previously I would put it off for a bit because it was inconvenient.

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Unfortunately I can't get this in the UK. I asked, but they only give out to kids or people who poorly manage their T1. :(

There's https://www.freestylelibre.co.uk/libre/ which I believe you can just order online (I'm considering one myself). You have to scan the sensor yourself(it stores the data between scans) so it doesn't trigger alarms like the dexcom but for gathering data about how exercise/diet effects your levels it should do the job nicely I think. edit: The starter pack costs £159.95, see https://www.freestylelibre.co.uk/libre…

German insurance companies cover these too and I had them about six months before switching to Dexcom system. The NFC scanner provided is not accurate at all. The values are what they are and you can't calibrate them. Luckily if you own an Android phone with NFC reader you can use xDrip+ to scan the values and xDrip+ allows calibrations, so the measurements reflect your blood sugar much more accurately.

I'm having trouble with not feeling hypoglycemias and I'm having them quite often at night. Freestyle Libre by default doesn't automatically measure your glucose levels, but there is a hack with Sony Smartwatch 3, a strap and very custom and hacky android version which enables the NFC reader in Sony and you can get alarms to your phone on low glucose levels. It worked and saved me a couple of nights, but the Libre chips break easily and the system was kind of a drag to use in the end.

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The Medtronic 670g was my other option, but I took the Animas Vibe + Dexcom G4 just because it's easier to hack, lots of German Diabetes hackers use it, its CGM seems to be more accurate and you can use the G4 sensors way longer than the 670g. 670g is a closed loop system, but what it does is it stops giving you the basal insulin when it thinks you are getting a hypoglycemia soon. What it doesn't do is to give you co…

The 670G completely controls basal rates; the "suspend on low" functionality arrived in a previous generation. But it won't keep your blood glucose at 5.5 mM -- it targets 6.7 mM, and there doesn't seem to be any way to change this. :-/

Sounds nice. I still think I'm going to manage my insulins manually until the next generation of artificial pancreas. This system what I have is already the biggest ever improvement for my diabetes I've ever had.
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