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Android now supports Kotlin

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Re: Android now supports Kotlin

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Post by tomc1985 »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #31
deskamess wrote: post #17

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New to Kotlin + ecosystem... So can you build Android UI's with Scene Builder? I see notes about it working with Gluon Mobile which appears to be a cross platform mobile library.

No, Android does not support JavaFX or Swing for that matter.

From what I've read the open-source bits of Gluon Mobile are available for free via JavaFXPorts

http://gluonhq.com/products/mobile/javafxports/get/ However it seems to be a barebones solution as it lacks mobile-specific controls (they want you to buy Gluon Mobile for that)

Re: Android now supports Kotlin

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Post by monkmartinez »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #28

Looks like Kotlin will soon be skyrocketing to the top of the TIOBE charts.

Disclaimer: I am always looking for that Unicorn. The one that will let me write my code once and run it on all platforms. I refuse to give up this quest.

I use Pycharm and have used other Jetbrains IDE's in the past. They make me soooo very happy to use. That is, I have tried almost every Python IDE and suped up Vim/Emacs; None of them came close to Pycharm for me. They know cross platform. Their IDE's are just as bad ass on the macOS as they are on Windows... again, for me.

They make IDE's for just about everything and I assume they are all of stellar quality. My assumption, as of about 30 minutes ago, is that Kotlin could be a great bet for cross platform development in the near, near future. Jetbrains has every reason for this language to succeed in as many places as possible. Web, Mobile and Desktop. The fact that it runs on the JVM and compiles to JS out of the box makes me wonder why I haven't tried it yet.

Re: Android now supports Kotlin

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Post by cromo »

tsvetkov wrote: post #35
geodel wrote: post #14

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I think Go is never going to be officially supported on Android. Dart, though, seems more likely as it is Java like VM based language. Go is going to have better support on Fuchsia OS from Google.

Dart is not a JVM Language. It can be compiled to the JavaScript or run in the Dart VM.

The wording was a bit confusing, but I think they meant "Java-like" and "VM-based" as separate things, not that Dart runs on the JVM.

Re: Android now supports Kotlin

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Post by fstephany »

H1Supreme wrote: post #30
monkmartinez wrote: post #21

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Total guess, but maybe they see the actual usage numbers of developers that use Go? AND that number is not very high. Also, how well does Go translate into Android apps? Just a guess.

I like writing Go, and it's my go to (pun intended) for writing web API's. Building a framework around it for Android apps would be a mighty task. Kotlin makes more sense considering it's connection with the JVM. I'll keep writing Java to build Android apps though. I'm sure it's "more fun" or whatever, but Java's worked just fine for me thus far. I'm used to the verbosity, and have no desire to start from scratch wit…

You can mix Kotlin and Java in the same project easily. I have a project where we have a bit of both. All the new code is written in Kotlin and some older features are converted to Kotlin when we feel like it.

Re: Android now supports Kotlin

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Post by dfabulich »

johnhattan wrote: post #40

I'm assuming that this is going to work natively via LLVM, as Kotlin's original target was JVM bytecode, which should work fine on Android right now.

Today, Android cross-compiles JVM bytecode to its own non-JVM bytecode; I'd assume they'll continue using a two-stage approach for Kotlin.

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Post by wickawic »

w8rbt wrote: post #42

I wonder if Android will ever support Go? Seems Google would want to do this.

I was about to reply that go seems more systems oriented, but on second thought that is really more of a self fulfilling prophecy. With the proper library support I bet go would be a great language for mobile development.

Re: Android now supports Kotlin

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Post by monkmartinez »

H1Supreme wrote: post #30
monkmartinez wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Total guess, but maybe they see the actual usage numbers of developers that use Go? AND that number is not very high. Also, how well does Go translate into Android apps? Just a guess.

I like writing Go, and it's my go to (pun intended) for writing web API's. Building a framework around it for Android apps would be a mighty task. Kotlin makes more sense considering it's connection with the JVM. I'll keep writing Java to build Android apps though. I'm sure it's "more fun" or whatever, but Java's worked just fine for me thus far. I'm used to the verbosity, and have no desire to start from scratch wit…

I kind of gave up on Java and Android a few years ago and picked up Python. I have given Go a whirl... but it doesn't tick all the boxes for me. I really, really want to build apps for all the platforms with one language and awesome GUI's.
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