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Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

#41

So... it's like a poorly explained PaaS which is: - An IDE - A platform for running containers - A set of productivity and collaboration tools - CI service - Deployment tools ...all in one? Really? I'm scratching my head over this one. I really respect the work RedHat do, but there's this idea of picking one thing and doing it well... but heck, I mean, you can also just do everything as well, and hope one bit or anot…

Almost all the internals are matured/stable upstream projects which have been around for a while.

Openshift.IO makes all them work as a SaaS for production use.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

#42
I wonder if there's a name for this: that impatience and discomfort you feel about anything new until you understand what it is exactly and what to compare it to.

Until that question is answered, you have ZERO patience for any marketing you read: especially fluffy visionary commentary about "digital transformation". You are quite literally making your readers angry because you are not answering their questions.

For anyone launching anything:

1. Make the first goal of your homepage just explaining what the thing is. Be clear. Be specific. People just want to know how to reason about it.

2. Show photos, video, or screenshots. (Even if you don't think it's amazingly sexy.) Seeing the product makes it so much more real.

3. Compare it liberally with what's out in the market now: this is your chance to show how it's similar and why it's different. Can be chart or table.

Then and only then, can you move on to how your product improves the lives of devs, chefs, athletes, etc. who uses it. (But you may not even need to.)

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

#44
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What is this product about? I clicked "Learn more" and was greeted by a sweet, juicy corporate-speak ( https://www.openshift.io/end-to-end.html ): Digital transformation is about evolving into a technology business in order to compete in the digital economy. Businesses can’t transform without relying on the developer to implement the transformation strategy and deliver value. Mmm... tasty!

I think with some stake-holdering it can synergize the democratization of orchestrated micro-services cloud.

In real-time.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

#45
It's Redhat, whose focus has always been enterprise the money maker.

Ever since it dumped the desktop years ago, I switched to the deb ecosystem and never looked back, do not want to have anything to do with Redhat,including this openshift thing, one reason is for the "dump-the-desktop"(please don't mention Fedora), another is that, DEB is so much better than RPM for my daily life.

I also hate the Redhat-intrusively-forced-on-SystemD to my heart.

That been said, I appreciate what Redhat have been doing to the open source, I guess it is win-win for the community and its own business goals.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

#47
openshift.io (please watch .io) is a complete cloud native development environment for organizations, having work spaces created for collobaration, IDE with Eclipse Che, complete build, pipelines along with analytics to deliver actionable insights to the developer for choosing the right software components. All this happens in a Browser..

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

#48

I wonder if there's a name for this: that impatience and discomfort you feel about anything new until you understand what it is exactly and what to compare it to. Until that question is answered, you have ZERO patience for any marketing you read: especially fluffy visionary commentary about "digital transformation". You are quite literally making your readers angry because you are not answering their questions. For a…

This is my biggest gripe as well, and you're spot on. Vague promises of how the thing is going to "revolutionize the way I do things" just make me file it under "things to impress enterprise middle managers with", rather than something I can use to make my life easier.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

#49
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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disclosure: I work on openshift.io Openshift.io is the end-to-end development environment which is built over the OpenShift PaaS.

Sorry, but you are doing a terrible job of explaining what OpenShift is to outsiders. OpenShift is a Platform-as-a-Service offering from RedHat. It provides a fully integrated solution to building and deploying applications on Docker and Kubernetes. What makes it a PaaS is that it integrates Jenkins, so you can build images from source and promote them though environments. https://www.openshift.com/ OpenShift is a pr…

They should have paid you to write copy for their website.

Re: Red Hat OpenShift.io – Free, end-to-end, cloud-native development

#50

So... it's like a poorly explained PaaS which is: - An IDE - A platform for running containers - A set of productivity and collaboration tools - CI service - Deployment tools ...all in one? Really? I'm scratching my head over this one. I really respect the work RedHat do, but there's this idea of picking one thing and doing it well... but heck, I mean, you can also just do everything as well, and hope one bit or anot…

Full Disclosure: I'm a Red Hat Consultant focused on OpenShift.

All of our work is open on github under the OpenShift Origin project, Kubernetes, and other projects. We push most of changes upstream.

Doing containers at a scale of 10,000+ running containers would be unimaginably hard without something like OpenShift. Clusters of 1,000s of nodes, Security, RBAC throughout our supported tools, optional SCM (git via GOGS), optional integrated local Docker Registry, optional CI/CD (Jenkins), optional build/artifact repo (Nexus), optional basic metrics (Hawkular, Heapster, Cassandra), optional monitoring (CloudForms, Cockpit), optional EFK logging stack, (Elasticsearch, FluentD, Kibana), horizontal autoscaling, support for NFS, NetApp, OpenStack, RHEV, KVM, VMware, AWS, GCE, Azure, Ceph, GlusterFS, BIG-IP F5, iSCSI, FibreChannel, dynamic node provisioning, dynamic storage provisioning, OAuth2 authentication and app integration, LDAP authentication, SAML2 authentication, Okta, auto SDN creation, SDN segregation, application load balancing, multiple encryption flow options, HTTP/2 support, internally secured communications, Ansible integration. For a solution so encompassing, you need something that marks the way. Most of our customers exchange several parts for what they have or what they want.

And we do all of this with Quality as we develop in the open & commit to upstream projects. We spend $100Ks (probably more) on R&D and testing every release (every 3-4 months). The benefits, again, are usually committed upstream. You have Red Hat's award winning Customer Support. I'll personally vouch for our OpenShift Customer Support Teams. Absolutely amazingly talented and insightful engineers from all over the globe.

One of our biggest customer concerns is in integrating customers' code to run on the Platform, aka, the Last Mile of Integration. IMO, OpenShift.io is intended to reduce that barrier. We support just about all the popular languages, frameworks, and platforms. We have examples & templates for Perl, PHP, Python, Ruby, nodejs, Java (Spring Boot, JBoss, xPaaS, FUSE), and even .Net Core, MySQL, PostgreSQL, MongoDB, CouchDB. Figuring out how to integrate legacy CI/CD, monitoring, logging, IDEs, etc. with OpenShift takes the most time. In choosing OpenShift.io, in return, you get an environment that is built from the get-go to work together.

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