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Does anyone actually have any problems with Thunderbird? I feel like it is "done" software. It works, perfectly, for all my needs. It's fast. It has great UI. It lets me read and write email.
Does anyone actually have any problems with Thunderbird? I feel like it is "done" software. It works, perfectly, for all my needs. It's fast. It has great UI. It lets me read and write email.
Overall the main problem is probably that not enough people can spend enough time on it. Which makes me hypocritical given that I'm not currently helping…
Mozilla just doesn't get the message.... We don't want your features, fixes, refreshes, rebranding, or re-imagining. We want a browser that is fast, stable, secure, minimal, and that DOES NOT FIGHT US. Let me load my old SSL certs (a warning is fine). Let me keep my preferences (why does https:// disappear from my address bar every update, and my search bar keep switching back to case sensitive). Stop making your pro…
So Thunderbird is moving away from legacy technology that was built to make Mozilla/Firefox more than just a browser. They are doing this to be free to improve Firefox to make it more stable, fast, secure and minimal. This leads to a completely independent Mozilla project, Thunderbird, that relied on this technology to get the axe. That project thus is discussing taking the difficult technical step to start from scra…
Does any cross-platform GUI toolkit have a widget that can handle this with sane defaults?
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Well, the web is evolving. If you're a sysadmin and you test everything in an ancient version of Firefox that doesn't display SSL errors, you're not getting an accurate picture of what the product's users will see. The latest browsers might entirely block people from visiting your site, display a huge warning, etc. and you wouldn't know. Maybe being a sysadmin requires getting the fixes, refreshes, rebranding as they…
No no no you missed what I am saying. I use horrible hardware appliances with built in md5 ssl certs for remote administration. I am not a web developer. I need to be able to access them to secure them and to work on hardware problems. This isn't even on the internet, this is on a local lan serving a small business. We're not going to buy new hardware because my browser updated, so I'm stuck having to boot up a mint…
If it becomes yet another Electron package it is time to look elsewhere.
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No no no you missed what I am saying. I use horrible hardware appliances with built in md5 ssl certs for remote administration. I am not a web developer. I need to be able to access them to secure them and to work on hardware problems. This isn't even on the internet, this is on a local lan serving a small business. We're not going to buy new hardware because my browser updated, so I'm stuck having to boot up a mint…
That's the problem of the hardware appliance, and the company who makes it has basically abandoned their customer if they have no updates that let you manage it with a modern browser. Who makes this product? They shouldn't be supported.
I wish I could freeze the program Thunderbird in time to keep it precisely how it is right now for the next couple of decades. I literally want not change. I know, I know. It's a pipe dream, the surrounding environment changes, breaking the program as the OS and libraries evolve. But this constant resolving of perfectly solved problems annoys me.
git clone ^ there you go. A stable thunderbird branch that will work mostly forever. Every time an API changes just shove it in another iteration of a virtual machine :P
Mozilla just doesn't get the message.... We don't want your features, fixes, refreshes, rebranding, or re-imagining. We want a browser that is fast, stable, secure, minimal, and that DOES NOT FIGHT US. Let me load my old SSL certs (a warning is fine). Let me keep my preferences (why does https:// disappear from my address bar every update, and my search bar keep switching back to case sensitive). Stop making your pro…
So Thunderbird is moving away from legacy technology that was built to make Mozilla/Firefox more than just a browser. They are doing this to be free to improve Firefox to make it more stable, fast, secure and minimal. This leads to a completely independent Mozilla project, Thunderbird, that relied on this technology to get the axe. That project thus is discussing taking the difficult technical step to start from scra…
I wonder, if they want to use JS, why not QtQuick? I'm a heavy Thunderbird user but I would move to pretty much anything else if it were to switch to Electron.