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Re: DeepstreamHub: a faster Firebase with an open core

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Post by redka » Wed, Apr 12, 2017, 8:22 AM UTC

datasage wrote: post #32

redka wrote: post #25

Not exactly Firebase in that it doesn't provide an arbitrarily nested JSON structure as a datastore but more of a document-based approach. Overall a pretty good alternative to Firebase but there is no security rules, no default data store or auth so you need a lot more work. Lists are not very good being just a record with an array of record keys and not the actual data. I use the self-hosted version (deepstream.io)…

We switched from firebase to deepstream, and are hosting it ourselves. With firebase since we were not running a node or java app, we ended up relying heavily on the rest interface. Which was sort of the not well taken care of. We would see crazy spikes and we could not get support to fix it. Multi tenancy would occasionally cause other performance issues. We eneded up running a bit of a monkey patched system for awh…

Yes. Firebase needs your apps to written in JS or Java. The lack of support for pub/sub was never a problem for me though since the channelRef.push(msg).remove() works 100% reliably.

Re: DeepstreamHub: a faster Firebase with an open core

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Post by wolframhempel » Wed, Apr 12, 2017, 8:39 AM UTC

marknadal wrote: post #6

Competitor here, please don't become an "open core" company - "Open Core" = "Crippleware". Here is my thoughts/arguments around it, dealing with the RethinkDB and Parse shut down as well: https://hackernoon.com/the-implications-of-rethinkdb-and-par... Plus, was invited to speak about it on the Changelog Podcast: https://changelog.com/podcast/236 Please stay truly open :) that way we can still compete. ;) Or else we'l…

Labeling deepstream.io as "crippleware" feels a bit odd to say the least. The relationship is more similar to Kafka/Confluence - a strong, standalone open source project that existed first and continues unrestrained and a solid service company based on it

Re: DeepstreamHub: a faster Firebase with an open core

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Post by Sujan » Wed, Apr 12, 2017, 1:32 PM UTC

wolframhempel wrote: post #17

Sujan wrote: post #2

What exactly can be replaced with DeepstreamHub if your are using Firebase right now?

deepstreamHub's records can be used instead of Firebase's realtime db/data-sync part, deepstream's events are a replacement for their lately added PubSub capabilities. deepstreamHub does request response as well while Firebase offers integration with numerous Google services. The core differences are in the way deepstreamHub structures its data (small, related documents with independent lifecycles rather than one big…

Ok, so this is really a replacement for Firebase realtime database, which is 1 of >25 services that Firebase offer nowadays. Right?

Re: DeepstreamHub: a faster Firebase with an open core

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Post by wolframhempel » Wed, Apr 12, 2017, 1:45 PM UTC

Sujan wrote: post #43

wolframhempel wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

deepstreamHub's records can be used instead of Firebase's realtime db/data-sync part, deepstream's events are a replacement for their lately added PubSub capabilities. deepstreamHub does request response as well while Firebase offers integration with numerous Google services. The core differences are in the way deepstreamHub structures its data (small, related documents with independent lifecycles rather than one big…

Ok, so this is really a replacement for Firebase realtime database, which is 1 of >25 services that Firebase offer nowadays. Right?

that's true - Firebase is pretty much a Gateway to google's cloud and add-platform. deepstreamHub is an alternative to Firebase core (or what Firebase used to be pre Google acquisition)

Re: DeepstreamHub: a faster Firebase with an open core

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Post by Sujan » Wed, Apr 12, 2017, 2:03 PM UTC

wolframhempel wrote: post #44

Sujan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, so this is really a replacement for Firebase realtime database, which is 1 of >25 services that Firebase offer nowadays. Right?

that's true - Firebase is pretty much a Gateway to google's cloud and add-platform. deepstreamHub is an alternative to Firebase core (or what Firebase used to be pre Google acquisition)

Thanks.

(Still looks good!)