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Umberto Eco's Anti-Library (2015)

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Re: Umberto Eco's Anti-Library (2015)

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I have the equivalent, but in the far more economical form of browser tabs and bookmarks that I will never read.

Glad I'm not the only one with 300+ tabs open. Hacker News really does not help with its constant barrage of interesting and often long form articles that I may not have time to read when I first encounter them.

I have the same,

I wish there was a text-to-speech tool that did not sound like a robot so I could listen to articles on commutes and other opportunities while not in front of a computer.

Re: Umberto Eco's Anti-Library (2015)

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anything involving Taleb should be taken with a lump of salt OK let's assume Wikipedia is the equivalent of a giant library of unread books. I don't feel any smarter, nor am I am becoming smarter by not reading it. Buying a bunch of books one is never going to read seems like a waste of money. You cant actually learn anything until you read at least some of it..maybe missing the point

What makes you say that about Taleb? I mean, dude's got a huge ego, but he seems to back it up pretty well.

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I highly recommend bookbub.com for building up your own (e-book) anti-library. Every day you get an email with a bunch of $1-3 books. I usually end up buying at least a couple of them, because hey, $2. So now I've got a massive backlog of books and can almost always find something worth reading.

Plus the variety keeps you from getting stuck in a reading rut with one type of book.

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In some places it may cost more to shelve and house the books than to buy them. (Unless you're happy storing most of your books in boxes.) Probably not if you're in Eastern Europe, but if you're somewhere like San Francisco or London then the cost of the extra space taken up by having a lot of books may well be more than the cost of the books themselves. (I live a little way outside Cambridge, in England. I reckon th…

I think having books in your house is totally worth the price, even in the cases you mention, especially if you have kids. IMHO having your kids being surrounded by books since an early age it's one of the best ways to convince them that reading and wanting to learn about new stuff is good. I personally put that above them attending a good school, and I've read about lots of parents on HN choosing to purchase more ex…

> I personally put that above them attending a good school, and I've read about lots of parents on HN choosing to purchase more expensive houses only because they were closer to good schools.

Peer. Group. See the thread the other day about rich kids vs. poor kids prepping for the SAT. Their peers set their norms, which determines what they'll actually do (you can tell them to do otherwise all day long—it'll barely matter). For all the talk about funding and such, the people in and related to a school—students, parents, teachers, roughly in order of importance—account for about 90% of what distinguishes a "good" school from a "bad" one. Norms set by parents at a young age (you can try to break out of your normal behavior for your class/SES to adjust your kids' experience "up", but it'll be damn difficult) and peers throughout school are THE most important factor for later outcomes. You can buy (improved probability of better) peers with money—spent on either housing or the right private school, or, failing that, carefully chosen extracurriculars and summer programs. It's kind of worse than if the problems with schools were just funding-related, actually, but that's how it is.

Agreed about the books being important, though. I was just starting a to-ebooks transition intended to replace at least 2-3 hundred of my books, then we started having kids, and I thought about what it would have been like to grow up with such a huge selection of excellent books right there in my house. Trend halted and reversed immediately, haha.

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> “It is our knowledge — the things we are sure of — that makes the world go wrong and keeps us from seeing and learning,” That's not knowledge - that's belief. > Read books are far less valuable than unread ones. Eh, I agree having books you can refer to is useful, but I would argue you can't really refer to them unless you've read them. If they're really worthwhile, you'll read them, learn something, and keep them…

Belief is mentioned later in the article, clarifying the meaning. But be assured: knowledge is only ever a form of belief. The laws of physics could change tomorrow (this is not precluded by any provable rule of existence). Really everything we know, we know inductively. (Mathematical knowledge is excluded from this obviously because of its weird, tautological nature--but within math, the discovery of non-Euclidean g…

"Quotations on the internet are often misattributed." -- Abraham Lincoln

(The "what you know that ain't so" thing actually seems to have originated with Josh Billings. I don't think Mark Twain used it.)

Re: Umberto Eco's Anti-Library (2015)

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Glad I'm not the only one with 300+ tabs open. Hacker News really does not help with its constant barrage of interesting and often long form articles that I may not have time to read when I first encounter them.

I have the same, I wish there was a text-to-speech tool that did not sound like a robot so I could listen to articles on commutes and other opportunities while not in front of a computer.

I wonder if the recent experiments with deep learning on spoken audio can be combined with text to speech to create more natural sounding output.

Re: Umberto Eco's Anti-Library (2015)

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I personally just got around to accepting my antilibrary as a good/ok thing to have. In the past I would refrain from buying new books if I still had some unread ones on my shelf. But it now seems to me that it was a greater waste to squander what curiosity I had in the moment than the money spent on unread books. So my pile of unread books in my apartment has grown, but they aren't really wasted. Maybe some time ill get around to reading them. But until then they sit there as a constant reminder of all the things I found interesting enough to look into over the course of my life.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

In some places it may cost more to shelve and house the books than to buy them. (Unless you're happy storing most of your books in boxes.) Probably not if you're in Eastern Europe, but if you're somewhere like San Francisco or London then the cost of the extra space taken up by having a lot of books may well be more than the cost of the books themselves. (I live a little way outside Cambridge, in England. I reckon th…

I think having books in your house is totally worth the price, even in the cases you mention, especially if you have kids. IMHO having your kids being surrounded by books since an early age it's one of the best ways to convince them that reading and wanting to learn about new stuff is good. I personally put that above them attending a good school, and I've read about lots of parents on HN choosing to purchase more ex…

Assuming your city has a public library, and you check out only 10 books a month, your child will be exposed to many more books growing up than if you buy books (as buying you are limited by space and money).

Of course, one can check out way more than 10 books per month if they are really a bookworm.

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(1) "I definitely buy books that I don't intend to read 'immediately'" (2) "I definitely do not have 10X the money that I need" Perhaps if you didn't do (1) (and similar behavior), you would have 10x the money you need.

I was half-kidding, but around my parts of the world (Eastern Europe) books are really not that expensive. I'd say the average price I pay for one is 10-15 euros, with the maximum at around 25 euros, and lots of 5 euro books that I buy from antique bookstores. Yeah, were I to put together all the money I paid for books I haven't read yet I would probably gather enough to pay for a decent 7-day vacation in Greece (and…

Do not forget about the 'latte effect'. You must include in the cost in books the opportunity cost of not investing that money instead.

Assuming an average 12.5 euros (13.70 dollars) per book, one book read every 14 days, and 7% return on investment, you actually spend 4527.97 euros every 10 years on books.

Over 30 years that number jumps to 31914.92 euros.

Note: I used https://financialmentor.com/calculator/latte-factor-calculat... to calculate.

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