The Mac Pro Lives • Hacker News Board

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by edraferi » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:38 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #36

jlgaddis wrote: post #5

For me -- and, I suspect, many others -- this is too little too late. Just a few months ago, I spent somewhere around $4500 (all-in) putting together a new workstation. It runs Linux instead of OS X and this has led to me using my (4-year-old) ThinkPad more than my (18-month-old) MacBook Pro (when I'm "on the go"). I actually plan on selling the MBP; I just haven't gotten around to it yet. I'm sure this is great news…

You can run linux on the MBP. It's a pretty good combination.

Sure, but why pay the apple tax if you're not going to use the whole package?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by jacquesm » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:39 PM UTC

edraferi wrote: post #41

jacquesm wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can run linux on the MBP. It's a pretty good combination.

Sure, but why pay the apple tax if you're not going to use the whole package?

He already has one.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by bangonkeyboard » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:39 PM UTC

jaimebuelta wrote: post #12

This is an incredibly weird thing... Inviting a bunch of bloggers into a room and saying that they're sorry, but they have great stuff down the line? It feels incredibly un-Apple.

Continual promises about greatness in the future to allay misgivings about the present feel very much Tim Cook's Apple.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by toxican » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:40 PM UTC

yankcrime wrote: post #15

ComputerGuru wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't get it?

It’s basically a quote from ‘The Empire Strikes Back’.

What's that? Is that an indie film?

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by MikusR » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:40 PM UTC

jaimebuelta wrote: post #12

This is an incredibly weird thing... Inviting a bunch of bloggers into a room and saying that they're sorry, but they have great stuff down the line? It feels incredibly un-Apple.

Not bloggers. Religious fanatics.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by mtgx » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:40 PM UTC

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #38

ealexhudson wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Perhaps they're realising that they're potentially losing a lot of people, and are a way aways from shipping. Much better to announce some vaporware and encourage people to stick around, especially if they plan to deliver. Before now, people had little hope about either Pros or Macbooks.

They wasted an entire hardware iteration on the Touch Bar that hardly anyone cares about. That's what put them in this position. If anything is un-Apple about it, it's that they so badly understood the desires of their customers.

In my opinion, Apple started losing its way when it started caring more about "fashion", which is not necessarily the same as (and it's often the opposite of) good design.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by eddieroger » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:40 PM UTC

agravier wrote: post #23

Assuming you can run another OS than OS X (meaning that you have some Linux, Windows or BSD mileage and are confident about administrating such a machine), then look around you on the refurb market, get your hands dirty and you can build a _great_ workstation at prices that are much less than Apple's. I have done so and I do not regret it at all.

For those who can run another OS besides macOS, then Apple hardware has rarely been the best option, and never the cheapest. The point for many, like me, is the combination of both the hardware and software.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by jvzr » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:41 PM UTC

ThomPete wrote: post #29

What an incredible unprofessional move, this would never have happened under Steve Jobs. Apple has been known for having the patience to wait with introducing things until they got them right. I guess this really is the Scullyfication of Apple. Desparate moves rather than just putting your heads down and come out with something new when you have it.

Didn't downvote.

But maybe it's just a matter of them realizing that they have to announce something because they know releasing when it's ready means next year... and last year was already late.

The company has changed in a lot of ways since 2011, some in a bad way, some in good. Times are changing too. Get on with it.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by jccalhoun » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:42 PM UTC

It is really interesting to read the articles from the other people who were there (links in the daring fireball article) and see the little differences in what each of them put in or left out.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by stingraycharles » Tue, Apr 04, 2017, 12:42 PM UTC

strombourg wrote: post #17

buserror wrote: post #13

Gave up on the mac pro years ago. I replaced my unkillable 2008 Mac pro with a lovely Fractal Design R5 case, a stonking 5930k overclocked at 4.5Gz on a 'posh' ASUS Mobo with 64GB of DDR. It's a 'hackintosh', sure enough, but it's fantastic. First time in 30 years I don't own a mac, that's telling. Their fault, too.

Had you built a hackintosh before? Any major negative experiences with compatibility / updates?

Fellow hackintosh builder here. It's totally doable. If you're able to run Linux and able to understand concepts like kernel modules, you'll be perfectly fine.

To get solid bluetooth support I bought a card from http://www.osxwifi.com/ , which makes peripherals like the magic trackpad work smoothly.