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Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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Raymond once had an article about why the date/time control panel is not a calendar https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20050621-04/?p=... In Windows 7 they've finally given up and the UI lets you easily scroll up and down through months after clicking on the clock. (Edit: sorry I meant Windows 10)

And since Windows 10 1607 it shows your calendar events.

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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I always have the seconds on (Ubuntu) and it's a good feature. I leave work every day at 17:28:15 sharp, otherwise I will miss my train (London DLR) and yes, seconds matter in this case.

If that isn't satire, how are you using the on-screen clock to do that?

Do you start staring at it at around 17:20 (or even earlier?) and wait for it to hit 17:28:15, or is your internal clock so good that you only have to start staring at it at 17:28:00?

Either way, why spend time staring at an on-screen clock if you also could spend that time walking to the train station, or even walking on the platform?

I would find some tool that allows me to set daily alarms at around 17:15 (as an early warning to finish whatever I am doing) and 17:28:15 (as a sign to leave now), so that I wouldn't have to waste time staring at that clock.

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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This is a good article, but keep in mind the timeframe it writes about. Not only was it 22 years ago, its writing about systems at the bare minimum system requirements. (Personally speaking, I remember speccing out a previous gen Windows 3.1 machine with 8MB of RAM in 92... and this is covering 4MB systems in 1995. By that time, 8-16MB would've been common.) Another story from the time is that I went to CompUSA (as a…

The Windows 95 hypetrain was truly something to behold. The Empire State Building lights in Windows colors, Friends castmembers appearing in a (truly lame) promotional video... Windows 95 was the release that put the phrase "operating system" on the common man's lips -- for better or worse.

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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It might not be the memory concern it once was, but today it might very well be a power concern. Modern laptop display pipelines can save power if they don't have to redraw any of the screen: constantly updating status bar animations break that.[1] 1: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2013/712/ (I think the relatively short graphics section mentions this. Can't seem to find the talk that goes into it in mor…

Can't watch on either Chrome or Firefox. Apple are real gits.

Neither Chrome or Firefox support HLS on the desktop despite providing support on mobile (since Android 3.0 I believe). They have categorically refused to add desktop support, if you have any complaints I would take it up with them.

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

On macOS, it’s a useful indicator of when the system has frozen/kernel panic, which unfortunately happens far too often.

You must have really bad luck with Macs. As a MacOS user for seven years I can't say I've ever had that issue. Certainly not enough to need the seconds to be an indicator. I've had my system completely lock up maybe four times and those times my mouse refusing to move was enough of an indicator. Heck, right now it's been two and a half months since I've rebooted... and probably a year since I've rebooted because it f…

I used to have a lot of problems with my imac, but that was more a function of have extremely low hard disk space and apps that don't behave well when that happens.

Also many mysterious crashes can be RAM problems.

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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post #43

I always have the seconds on (Ubuntu) and it's a good feature. I leave work every day at 17:28:15 sharp, otherwise I will miss my train (London DLR) and yes, seconds matter in this case.

If that isn't satire, how are you using the on-screen clock to do that? Do you start staring at it at around 17:20 (or even earlier?) and wait for it to hit 17:28:15, or is your internal clock so good that you only have to start staring at it at 17:28:00? Either way, why spend time staring at an on-screen clock if you also could spend that time walking to the train station, or even walking on the platform? I would fi…

It's not that hard once you're used to it. I just glance at the clock several times towards the end of work to know exactly when to wind things down and stand up from my chair at exactly 17:28:15. The optimal time was determined by observing elevator business patterns, crowd thickness downstairs and delay margins of train arriving at my stop.

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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I always have the seconds on (Ubuntu) and it's a good feature. I leave work every day at 17:28:15 sharp, otherwise I will miss my train (London DLR) and yes, seconds matter in this case.

I love that about London. 15 seconds before the train arrives 50 people turn up walking briskly at 5mph just in time.

Exactly this. I really like this punctuality and routine, so delays are rather annoying when they occur.

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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Can't watch on either Chrome or Firefox. Apple are real gits.

Neither Chrome or Firefox support HLS on the desktop despite providing support on mobile (since Android 3.0 I believe). They have categorically refused to add desktop support, if you have any complaints I would take it up with them.

Why would they support a closed, proprietary format when there exist better, open ones?

Re: Why doesn’t the clock in the taskbar display seconds? (2003)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't watch on either Chrome or Firefox. Apple are real gits.

Neither Chrome or Firefox support HLS on the desktop despite providing support on mobile (since Android 3.0 I believe). They have categorically refused to add desktop support, if you have any complaints I would take it up with them.

I can't find any reference for them supporting it on mobile, and it doesn't work in either on my phone (Android 7.0, for what it's worth). In fact, in Chrome it even fails to display the "not supported" message.

Besides that, I would rather complain that Apple is using an obscure format than complain that Mozilla and Google don't support an obscure format.

EDIT: sorry, it seems mobile Chrome is supposed to work, but it just... doesn't. Still don't see any reference for firefox, though.

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